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joechiro30
Joined: 24 Sep 2014 Posts: 145 City/Region: Lynnwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:52 pm Post subject: Repower Tomcat 255 |
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I’m looking to repower my Tomcat 255 2006 soon. I currently have the dad 150suzuki 150’s with about 1100 hours. Engines are running great. Just cleaned the injectors and replaced filters. How much longer do they normally run?
What engines do you recommend that I repower with? |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3382 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Repower Tomcat 255 |
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joechiro30 wrote: | I’m looking to repower my Tomcat 255 2006 soon. I currently have the dad 150suzuki 150’s with about 1100 hours. Engines are running great. Just cleaned the injectors and replaced filters. How much longer do they normally run?
What engines do you recommend that I repower with? |
If the engines are, by your own admission, "running great" why are you considering repowering? Got some excess cash you can't think of anything better to do with it?
If it were me I would do the regular maintenance and only consider replacing them when problems started to occur or maintenance costs got too high. I would also consider getting them rebuilt as an option to replacement.
I would hope that an engine from a reputable brand would run for at least a couple of thousand hours before performance or operational problems force their replacement.
I am expecting that my Honda engine will last as long as I own the boat. |
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joechiro30
Joined: 24 Sep 2014 Posts: 145 City/Region: Lynnwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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That makes sense. I’m a bit paranoid as I do some offshore excursions up to 70 miles offshore and would feel better if my engines were newer |
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ken35216
Joined: 12 Mar 2013 Posts: 569 City/Region: Destin, Florida
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2017
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Lady Onyx
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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joechiro30 wrote: | That makes sense. I’m a bit paranoid as I do some offshore excursions up to 70 miles offshore and would feel better if my engines were newer |
I understand. I'm not a mechanic so newer, right or wrong, gives me peace of mind. _________________ 2007 25 Cruiser 150 Suzuki (2013-2016)
2017 25 Cruiser 200 Yamaha (2017-present) |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3382 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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ken35216 wrote: | joechiro30 wrote: | That makes sense. I’m a bit paranoid as I do some offshore excursions up to 70 miles offshore and would feel better if my engines were newer |
I understand. I'm not a mechanic so newer, right or wrong, gives me peace of mind. |
Newer does not always guarantee better. If that were true, why do new things come with warranties?
Yes, a warranty may get your engine fixed if it breaks, but it is not going to help the immediate problem you'll have if the engine breaks 70 miles offshore.
The age of the engine is not going to make a whole lot of difference if the reason the engine breaks is because you hit something. Warranty might not matter much then either. |
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joechiro30
Joined: 24 Sep 2014 Posts: 145 City/Region: Lynnwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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What engines do any of you recommend for the tomcat 255? My buddy repowered with twin 150 HOs two strokes. Was interested in them until he said that they overheated at low speeds during rough seas. |
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BillE
Joined: 09 Jun 2016 Posts: 283 City/Region: Nashville
State or Province: TN
C-Dory Year: 2004
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Joe, do you know if your buddy's two stokes were Etecs? G1 or G2s? _________________ Bill & Sherry C-25 sold 2020, next? |
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joechiro30
Joined: 24 Sep 2014 Posts: 145 City/Region: Lynnwood
State or Province: WA
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C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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I believe they were G 2’s |
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DavidM
Joined: 24 Dec 2017 Posts: 196 City/Region: Punta Gorda
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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joechiro30 wrote: | What engines do any of you recommend for the tomcat 255? My buddy repowered with twin 150 HOs two strokes. Was interested in them until he said that they overheated at low speeds during rough seas. |
That could be as much about the installation as the engine. The engine's lower end may not have been deep enough to pick up water in rough seas at low speed with no rear end squat.
David |
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Chester
Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 1176 City/Region: home
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Vessel Name: Sold to lovely couple
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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The new generation 150 Mercs are getting rave reviews. Best in class power, economy, ease of service and more.
That said, have a knowledgeable mechanic give your engines a thorough physical. Have the oils tested, compression and leakdown tests etc. I'll bet they have another 1,100 hours to give. |
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Discovery
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 1239 City/Region: LOA, UTAH
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Discovery
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:34 am Post subject: |
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We have 1100 hrs on the Honda 135's on Discovery. I might consider new electronics, but I hope the Honda's go another 1100hrs. _________________
Brent and Dixie,
1984 22' Classic sold 2003
2003 24' TomCat sold 2005
2006 TC255 Discovery Sold 2020
2006 CD 22' Angler Sold 2014
https://share.delorme.com/FBrentBetenson
"Free men do not ask permission to bear arms." ~ Thomas Jefferson |
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cmetzenberg
Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Posts: 367 City/Region: Santa Barbara
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Kanaloa
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:43 am Post subject: |
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The only outboard I ever had die on me was a brand new e-tec. I have a friend who is running a honda BF 150 (which is what i have on the back of my tomcat) and it has 20,000+ hours; the boat previously belonged to a commercial fishermen. Keep your engines, 1100 hours is nothing. You have two of them if one fails you limp home on the other. _________________ Conrad Metzenberg
07' Tomcat 255 "Kanaloa"
87' Boston Whaler Guardian 17 (BlackFlag, 03-14)
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JimTid
Joined: 09 Dec 2013 Posts: 19 City/Region: Jacksonville
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2003
Vessel Name: Lucy
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:45 am Post subject: ETEC G2 |
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I replaced twin Suzuki 115HP motors (1700 hours) on my Rosborough RF246 with a new 2017 Evinrude ETEC G2 300 HP. The installed price was $28,600.
I wanted better mileage, performance and reliability. It came with an 8 year transferable warranty. It had a good electronics display and shift by wire rather than cable.
I was never happy with the G2
Fuel consumption was a little better than the twins but I had to add $30 a gallon oil which made the fuel savings a wash
It made more noise than the 4 strokes
Performance was not smooth throughout the power range
This motor is better suited for a bass boater that wants a hole shot and runs near WOT most of the time.
I had a fuel line pop off at 17 hours which left me stranded. It soaked the insulation inside the motor cover. Warranty paid for the repair but I was responsible for tow in and delivery to dealer. I waited 3 weeks for repair.
I suggest you stay with the 4 stroke motors. My preference would be the Yamaha. |
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BTDT
Joined: 07 Jan 2011 Posts: 322 City/Region: Grand Lake Oklahoma
State or Province: OK
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: C- Lark Wine Down
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:22 am Post subject: |
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FWIW- My Tomcat Honda BF-150 engines have close to 2600 hours. I service in accordance with engine manual, and have never had to add top-off oil. If I had one engine, I might consider replacement, but the chance of losing two engines simultaneously are odds I'm willing to take. That said, I also have a Boat US tow subscription _________________ John & Vicki Clark
C-Lark Wine Down
Tomcat 255 |
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JimTid
Joined: 09 Dec 2013 Posts: 19 City/Region: Jacksonville
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2003
Vessel Name: Lucy
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:59 pm Post subject: G2 big block vs small block |
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Just to clarify my prior comments on the G2 are for the big block versions 200 to 300 HP. The 150HP is a small block. There is a difference and I advise anyone considering a G2 small block to discuss with the owner of a small block on a similar hull. |
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