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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:09 am    Post subject: Garmin Panoptix livescope forward and down Reply with quote

Looks like Garmin has stepped it up again. This is impressive.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GnUoQcBOwtQ

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Garmin Panoptix livescope forward and down Reply with quote

jkidd wrote:
Looks like Garmin has stepped it up again. This is impressive.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GnUoQcBOwtQ


I have 2 good friends with the panoptix transducer, they swear by them. I happen to be a CHEAP SOB & have yet to talk myself into $1500.00 for the transducer, Yet Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of different transducers some pretty spendy. This livescope transducer and the black box 1500.00 and wow quite a step up from the ps21 and ps22 transducers. If it stops you from running into something or helps you get threw a shallow channel might be worth looking at.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that looks good for fishing, up to 25 feet away in shoal water....but what about real life cruising to avoid obstructions?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thataway wrote:
Yes, that looks good for fishing, up to 25 feet away in shoal water....but what about real life cruising to avoid obstructions?


That's what we have the old cheap sonar for to find obstructions. You can watch fish in real time look at your bait, see your down rigger ball, & see Halibut creeping along the bottom at your bait.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How far ahead of your boats bow cab you see? 25 feet out to the side is great, but 25 forward wouldn't be very helpful even at 1 or 2 knots.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the PS21 transducer 300 feet forward and 300 feet down. With the Livescope transducer 200 feet forward and 200 feet down. The maximum recommend speed is 9 MPH but they claim if your going faster there wouldn't be enough reaction time to do something. This would be a great device at Lake Powell when there is a little chop on the water and you can't see. There have been times where the water level was just right and there was all kinds of stickups just under the surface just waiting for the outdrive to smack the bottom. The PS21 transducer is $750 but is older technology.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jody, 300 feet would be nice and useful, especially at my "creeping in at low tide to anchor" speed. Buy the time I am ready, the technology will be updated, and the price will be down. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last winter, I watched a video of a Dashew Yacht going slowly to the head of a uncharted Greenland Fjord to anchor. It was most likely using the older PS 21 transducer as they indicated a 300 foot forward range. The video showing the forward looking sonar in action was extremely impressive & I would love to have the even more improved version on the Hunkydory. If it had been available when we first started our explorations, I would have purchased it & even now very tempting. Maybe not so great for fishing, but for exploring poorly or non charted waters a technical wonder.

Jody, thanks for posting.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay,
Thanks for your post.
Without it, I could not have imagined why anyone could need or want this technology, which is by all accounts in its primitive stage.

We all respect your vast experience, thanks again!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My thoughts are to build a mount for the stearn that would allow me to retract it when moving at speed and motorize it so I can steer it from the helm. I wonder if Garmin will beat me to this. I also thought about mounting it to the bottom of a trim tab. While this would be great for fishing I think I would like it more for avoiding under water hazards.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gulfcoast john wrote:
Jay,
Thanks for your post.
Without it, I could not have imagined why anyone could need or want this technology, which is by all accounts in its primitive stage.

We all respect your vast experience, thanks again!
John


John, thanks for the compliments, but when looking up the Dashew video involving the forward looking sonar use, I found my memory of last winter viewing it somewhat faulty. It was in Canada not Greenland & the head of the Bay was charted. The video does show the forward looking sonar in action & it’s a Simrad forward looking sonar with 200 to 250 feet forward look with clarity not close to the new Garmin, but does show how it can be used. I did watch all the Dashew videos & read all their information on past cruises & capabilities last winter & there are many, so not to surprising the lack of accuracy of my memory & thought corrections warranted. Here is link to video.

http://nixflet.site/fpb-78-1-cochise-uses-forward-looking-sonar-in-maskill-harbor-canada_H3MD9DXQOIQ4.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a few screen shots from the Live Scope.

This is the anchor just going down.



This is the anchor just touching bottom



This is retrieving the anchor the next morning.



This is heading straight into the shore.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the new mount for the forward facing sonar made. This one can be raise and lowered as well as turned any direction.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also got the new Livescope mount made this one can be raised or lowered, tilted as well as turned any direction. It will allow me to see down rigger balls the bait and the fish take the bait.

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