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Foggy



Joined: 01 Aug 2013
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City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Query surface area of two 50hp twin props vs one 100hp prop, say for a CD 22.

In the "twin vs single w/kicker" wrangle over the years, I have not yet heard the
above compared. It seems the twins will have "more prop" albeit different in pitch
and diameter than the single larger engine's prop. The only advantage of stated
twin "more prop" rigged vessel is it will be balls out quicker out of the hole.

I had twin 90s (vs a single 200hp) on my CD 26 and it was a jack rabbit from dead
slow - like a street dragster with super wide back tires scream with more "bite".

So, it seems if you want to drag race your boat, get more prop bite with twins on
a CD. Other than that, I can't find an advantage for twins over a single engine
except slow speed maneuvering and the twins certainly win on looks.

Aye.

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Fairbro



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Prescott
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Minnie Swann
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only correct answer is making the correct purchase. If you buy a particular single motor that quits on you sometime at the worst possible moment while you’re in the middle of the ocean you should buy twins. But, if instead Of the future troublesome motor you buy a single motor that will not ever quit on you and run perfectly any time and all the time then Twins are a ridiculous waste of money...But they look cool.
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ssobol



Joined: 27 Oct 2012
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City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairbro wrote:
...But they look cool.


Never found that to be reason to buy anything.
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Peter & Judy



Joined: 03 Dec 2014
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City/Region: Olds
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C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Mistaya
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
...But they look cool.


That was important to me back in High School.

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lloyds



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State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1996
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had twin 35's on a 22' c dory and they were perfect for me. Cheap to maintain, enough power (but just barely) and I could fish all day in the ocean on ten gallons of fuel. Not once did I have that thought in the back of my mind about what will I do if that single engine quits out here at 4 in the afternoon 25 miles out.
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DrewbirdII



Joined: 29 Sep 2012
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City/Region: fanny bay
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C-Dory Year: 1989
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like twins when headed off shore, twin boats that is. A buddy system is the best! Takes the pressure off you traveling with two or three boats working together, and increases your catch of tuna. Towing a boat back with bad fuel, no steering, or missing legs from a log strike is not fun, generally done well into the night. Having a buddy escort home makes it a it a lot safer!

Jim.
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hardee



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrewbirdII wrote:
I like twins when headed off shore, twin boats that is. A buddy system is the best! Takes the pressure off you traveling with two or three boats working together, and increases your catch of tuna. Towing a boat back with bad fuel, no steering, or missing legs from a log strike is not fun, generally done well into the night. Having a buddy escort home makes it a it a lot safer!

Jim.


Jim, very good, solid logic. Buddy boating is a great way to go. Only need to be as close as the radio will reach, but that beats 20, 30 or more miles. More fun too.

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Doolittle



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City/Region: Puget Sound
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C-Dory Year: 1990
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have fished at Neah Bay 45nm out and may times at Westport 20 - 30. Most of my fishing though is in Puget Sound and my 8hp Kicker runs 5x as many hours as my 90hp Yamaha main engine. Why put all those hours on one or the other of your twins? I bought my Tohatsu 8 as a kicker mainly because of their durability in Salt Water. Just check out all the small sailboats at a saltwater Marina and you will notice a lot of Nissan, Mercury, and Tohatsu. They are all the same engine and those motors rarely get flushed given where they are mounted. Also you can buy the Tohatsu online from onlineoutboards.com. The price is 2/3 the cost of a Yamaha or Honda and they ship for free and in some states no sales tax.

Heading out in the Ocean I also recommend running the kicker on a separate fuel tank with fuel from a separate source just in case the Fuel Dock is in over demand and you get the bottom of their storage tank. This happened a few years ago at LaPush for the Halibut opener and things really got ugly for several boats.

Sorry about the long message but I have been running the Doolittle in the Ocean for nearly 30 years and it is still something I never do casually. File a cruise plan with someone and when at all possible, buddy up with other boats.
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ssobol



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter & Judy wrote:
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...But they look cool.


That was important to me back in High School.


But did that actually get you anywhere with anyone you actually wanted to impress?
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Foggy



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why buy a boat you think is ugly? It doesn't make sense.

Of course this is a 'taste' issue, just as many people don't like spinach.

I learned a long time ago, just after high school, trying to impress others
with your possession(s) is a disaster (aka unbridled ego).

Aye.
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