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DavidM
Joined: 24 Dec 2017 Posts: 196 City/Region: Punta Gorda
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:33 am Post subject: |
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If you have ever tried hauling a heavy boat (close to the TV's weight) up a steep, wet ramp you will appreciate 4WD.
We tow a camping trailer with our 4WD Nissan Pathfinder which weighs about 3/4 of the Pathfinder's weight. We camp in state and national parks and forests. They are not primitive by any means but some have steep gravel driveways down to the campsite. At least once or twice a year I have to use the 4WD to get up a dry gravel road.
I think the break point where 4WD is useful is if the trailer is greater than half the weight of the TV, which is about where you should also be considering trailer brakes.
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cmetzenberg
Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Posts: 367 City/Region: Santa Barbara
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Kanaloa
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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I used to tow the tomcat with a 89' chevy 3500 duely. It had plenty of power (454 gas guzzler), but it was rear wheel drive with an open differential. I got stuck on launch ramps multiple times. From now on i'm 4x4 guy. _________________ Conrad Metzenberg
07' Tomcat 255 "Kanaloa"
87' Boston Whaler Guardian 17 (BlackFlag, 03-14)
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Salmon Fisher
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 808 City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Kim Christine
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Might try pricing installation of a posi differential for your 2WD. _________________ Patrick and Kim Walker
2004 25 Cruiser-Present
2000 22 Cruiser 2009-2014 (Sold)
2006 25 Cruiser 2014-2019 (Sold)
1985 22 Classic -2019 (Sold)
1991 19 Arima Sea Ranger-2019-2021 (Sold)
2015 27 Ranger Tug-2019-2023 (Sold)
1987 22 Cruiser -2021-2023 (Sold)
Honey, this REALLY will be my last boat, honest! |
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BuildItOnce
Joined: 07 Aug 2018 Posts: 33 City/Region: Poulsbo
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Puzzle Piece
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Salmon Fisher wrote: | Might try pricing installation of a posi differential for your 2WD. |
Yeah, I thought about that years ago after the first time I got stuck in the grass in my yard on a wet day on a very, very small incline. Maybe now is the time to pull the trigger on that! |
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CaptMac
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 225 City/Region: Amelia Island / Jacksonville
State or Province: FL
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:52 pm Post subject: tow vehicle cdory 22 |
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I tow my 22 Cruiser with a Navigator 4wd. Its rated at 6,000 towing capacity. I like to use 4wd "low" for pulling the boat out of the water at the lower tides levels. There seems to be less stress on the motor and transmission.
_________________ Capt Mac Daniel
Flounder Gigging Charters
Amelia Island, Florida 32034
http://www.floundergigging.com
Flounder Gigging Charters
"The Adventure of a Night-time"
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20803 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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In over 60 years of trailering boats, I have only owned one 4 x 4, and one all wheel drive. It is extremely rare that I use 4 wheel drive. One issue with pickups is not enough weight in the bed and on rear tires.
The places I have used or wanted 4 x 4 was where there was slick material, or sand on the concrete ramp, or a gravel or sand launch. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Another alternative to 4WD for the F250 might be to put a hitch on the front to use for launching, but I would still retrieve on the rear hitch, (as you go up the ramp the weight on the rear axle is increasing, and should provide more traction.) I guess if it was me, I would tire of swapping ends rather rapidly.
The 4WD vehicle is almost always the best option for launch and retrieve. I have launched in dozens of places, and have towed or helped tow at least a dozen vehicles off a launch ramp or beach. Not a one of those was a 4x4.
Harvey
SleepyC _________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:24 am Post subject: |
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A 4x4 is unmatched for safe launching and retrieving, especially with a slippery ramp: algae, sand, mud, ice, etc.
The compound low 4x4 turns the tow vehicle into somewhat of a tractor.
Big off-road tires help, too. Add snow chains for heavy snow and ice in the winter, too.
I have launched and retrieved my Sea Ray 265 Sedan Bridge (8600 lbs) with my Durango (over capacity, I know) easily with sand on the steep ramps at Lake Shasta to take it for service without any problems repeatedly.
A front hitch is great for maneuverability, but you can only go so far into the lake with a front mounted engine unless you have a snorkel and an engine set up to work under water (!). Or an extendable trailer tongue.
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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SENSEI
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1067 City/Region: Stanwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1995
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: SENSEI
Photos: SENSEI and SERENITY
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Sea Wolf wrote: | A 4x4 is unmatched for safe launching and retrieving, especially with a slippery ramp: algae, sand, mud, ice, etc. |
here is the ultimate. 18 mph won't get you there very fast tho ....lol.... _________________ Roger on the "SENSEI"
1983 22 Classic (acquired 1995)
1995 25 Cruiseship (sold 2012)
1993 22 Cruiser (sold 2014)
1995 22 Angler (acquired 2016)
1983 22 Classic (sold 2017) |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Cool Roger. Love that color scheme too. Wanna trade, I have a great Toyota Tundra, and it is just barely broke in
I could drive that from your house to mine in a couple of days. (Also, that is exactly what I told my kids they could start driving on. --- Safer on the highways.
Harvey
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