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cmetzenberg
Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Posts: 367 City/Region: Santa Barbara
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Kanaloa
Photos: Kanaloa
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:06 am Post subject: Tomcat 255 capacity |
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So an acquaintance is trying to get me to take him and 7 friends to one of our local islands where they can backpack for the weekend. So 8 people and probably ~240lbs of backpacks. I’m away from my boat right now to check the capacity plate. It sounds tight for sure but would it be legally overloaded is my question? Does anyone have capacity info on the tomcat 255?
Thanks, _________________ Conrad Metzenberg
07' Tomcat 255 "Kanaloa"
87' Boston Whaler Guardian 17 (BlackFlag, 03-14)
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Gene Morris
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 424 City/Region: Eureka CA
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Reef Madness
Photos: Reefmadness
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:08 am Post subject: |
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CM;
I’m not on my boat now. But, the legal capacity is 13 or 14 people. As long as everyone has a life jacket you should be ok.
Gene _________________ tight lines |
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Pacificcoast101
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 717 City/Region: Torrance
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: No Pressure
Photos: No Pressure
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20803 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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A recreational vessel over 20 feet LOA does not need a capacity plate. For example my C Dory25 does not have one.
The excepted "carrying capacity" of the Tom Cat is 1800 lbs, this came from a "Factory engineer" in the 2009 era.
Until a few years ago CG considered the "average passenger to be 150#. As of December 1, 2011, the Assumed Average Weight Per Person (AAWPP) of 185#. The 12 people capacity came from this weight limit of 1800 lbs back in the 150# AAWP.
You would be close with 9 people and any gear. (8 campers plus you).
A lot will depend on the weather. Your boat will have less tunnel clearance, and the ride may be wetter. If each of the passengers did weigh 185# and you had 240 worth of gear (plus all of your normal gear)--you would be over that capacity... However, the boat will not sink--may get some water in thru the scuppers, and be sure the bilge pumps are both working! I personally think that is pushing it at 1905#. Is the CG going to take action--very unlikely. If there were an accident, and a law suit ensued, then you might be in a compromised position.
To me the question is how will the cat handle with that weight? Two factors--one going into chop and swells, and the other is down swell/chop--you will have to be ready to shift weight if necessary. How fast will your acceleration be as well as boat reaction time--for example if a bow buries?
I would not do it--I have had 6 to 8, but they were small people including children, so I was probably under 1000#, including gear. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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cmetzenberg
Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Posts: 367 City/Region: Santa Barbara
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Kanaloa
Photos: Kanaloa
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info all. My wife just told me I'm busy on kid duty that day.... problem solved lol |
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Jack in Alaska
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1190 City/Region: Anchorage/Ninilchik
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 26 Pro Angler
Vessel Name: HIGH TIDE II
Photos: HIGH TIDE II
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:45 am Post subject: load |
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I just went on a fishing trip with 6 men and came back with 200 lbs. of halibut.
My 26' C-Dory ProAngler handled it just fine.
Jack in Alaska _________________ On the HIGH TIDE-II, wife Carolyn and I.....Another summer fishing on the HIGH TIDE II in the Cook Inlet at Cape Ninilchik, Alaska.
HIGH TIDE-II; 2005 26' ProAngler; 2003 200 Honda / 2009 9.9 Honda high thrust
No. CD026021I405; AK-5008-AK
MSSI No. 338143486(cancelled)
HIGH TIDE; 1983 Angler Classic 22'; 90 Honda/ 9.9 Tohatsu-sold 2009 to son Dan (flatfishfool)
Stolen & stripped in Aug. 18
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redbaronace
Joined: 29 Aug 2012 Posts: 581 City/Region: Puget Sound
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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We have been 50 miles offshore with 4 men and gear for halibut and ling cod. We also came back with 200 lbs of fish and had no issues at all.
You might want to get plugs for the scuppers if you plan to keep alot of weight at the stern. Water can come in through the drains, but once you get moving it clears pretty quick on its own. _________________ 2006 Tomcat 255 with Twin Suzuki 150's.
Outfitted for cruising and fishing the NW waters and has been 60 miles off the coast of Neah Bay. |
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