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C-Val



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:12 am    Post subject: Remove very old vinyl boat numbers Reply with quote

Hi Everyone

Just want to ask what your tricks are to remove very old vinyl boat registration numbers.

I have heard heat helps

Thanks

David

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For vinyl I've used a heat gun with a sharp single edge razor followed by "goof off" and then a wax. Watch the heat.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

on the new Sensei, I used a razor blade to get the 1995 graphics off then wiped it off to get the glue residue off with good ol 87 octane gasoline. it removed the film with ease
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your inputs

Heat gun it is - used with care!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They will always come off with heat (no matter how old they are), thats not the issue. The issue is the sun fade on the gelcoat.

On my new boat I can clearly still see the old graphics at different angles! I hate that.....

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SENSEI wrote:
on the new Sensei, I used a razor blade to get the 1995 graphics off then wiped it off to get the glue residue off with good ol 87 octane gasoline. it removed the film with ease



Is that ethanol free gasoline? ....................only joking.
If you don't have a drop of gasoline or "Goo Gone" handy, good 'ol WD 40 does the same job.

Martin.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

South of Heaven wrote:
The issue is the sun fade on the gelcoat.


I just removed the pin stripe on the hull line. You could see the gelcoat had yellowed compared to the white under the stripe. I used some 3M Finesse compound and a polisher to remove the yellowing. Our boat is an '07 and is parked on the trailer outside. Will it work all the time? I doubt it. But worth a try.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so at the Fh gathering I picked up a set of original cdory decal complete with the original factory address. This is wonderful because my old ones are in really bad shape. These are not vinyl ( i think ). would heat be the best way to get them off?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to remove a 3M "Diamond Shield" on the front of my RV--and not damage the paint. These are far more tenacious than the vinyl we use on names and numbers etc. I found a combination of "ZEP" or any other good citrus spray, (Home Depot), and a plastic razor blade made the job as easy as possible. I just did the name and numbers on "Thataway"--and it was a 20 minute job. Someone had used steel razor blades in the past--and it showed. I never use them on a fiberglas or painted vehicle!. Heat might have made it a little faster (and I did use heat on the RV). Don't get it too hot, or you can damage the gel coat! Clean up with Goof Off, or WD 40 (one of the few things it is good for). As Local Boy, I compounded the area where both the numbers and name was. First I wanted fully clean and wax for the new graphics, plus I didn't want to compound over new vinyl--that is a great way to ruin the graphics!

Wear Nitrile gloves; Best I have found are Harbor Freight, 9 mil--really last and fit!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem I found is that even with the old lettering removed, you can still see what was there because the gelcoat fades/weathers differently when covered by the vinyl. Unless you are replacing identical lettering you are going to see what was there before.

I had a FG RIB once. Before I bought it they took the old lettering off the hull. However, for as long as I owned the boat, you could still pretty clearly make out the old name on the transom.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssobol wrote:
The problem I found is that even with the old lettering removed, you can still see what was there because the gelcoat fades/weathers differently when covered by the vinyl. Unless you are replacing identical lettering you are going to see what was there before.


This is basically a problem for the boat owner--and the rest of the world are not so hyper critical, we don't go looking for old shadows...or ghosts. Generally I find that I see the old name, but no one else pays any attention to it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can buy a rubber wheel at auto body supply stores that you use on a drill. Works well on cars - never tried them on fiberglass. Keep it flat, keep it moving - don't hold in one place too long or with too much pressure.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When using chemicals to get rid of the adhesive, start with a small test area. I tried to use an industrial strength Goo gone to get rid of the crystalized adhesive on our Parker, and it discolored the hull. Luckily it was a small spot not noticeable but I switched to something a little less heavy duty, like orange gone or something like that.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem I am having is that the ghosted lettering from the old registration is "raised up." It is like the gelcoat underneath the old lettering hasn't "weathered." The gelcoat around where the old lettering was is slightly lower and the old lettering area is proud of the surrounding gelcoat.
I have read to use 600 grit sanding the old lettering down to the existing gelcoat level. Is this advisable?
Thanks everyone.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a hair dryer to peel away old stickers, then spray toilet bowl cleaner over the area. In a few minutes, it looks much better. By the next day, it looks brand new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEGolbLmAYo

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