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Ehuber
Joined: 01 May 2018 Posts: 3 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 2:39 am Post subject: Making an offer on C-Dory 22 |
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Hi all, just want to get some advice on a C-Dory 22 Cruiser my wife and I are hoping to buy. I am in the Air Force stationed in Alaska and my wife is a teacher so we don’t have a ton of $$$. We are trying to maximize our time while we are in AK since this is a once in a lifetime place to live and we want to make the most of it. We have owned a bass boat at our previous base but don’t have any experience with ocean boats. We have no doubt that the 22’ cruiser will fit our needs for camping/fishing with 2 adults and 2 toddlers but in your opinion how well would this work with inlaws in town? 4 adults and 2 toddlers, no overnight trips but just a day of cruising and fishing? We would be launching out of Whittier mainly. We have some pretty awesome kids so I think they would be content on a boat for a day or two looking at all the sights and helping dad fish.
Our biggest concern is resale of the boat. It looks like a beautiful, well maintained boat but I am worried that the price might be too high. The sellers listed it at $46k which seems high to me despite all the electronics and low hours. We offered $38k but that did not go over well with them and we were added to their “list of offers.” In your opinion is this boat worth the $46K they are asking? My main concern is that I will have to sell it 3-4 years when I have to move for my job and I don’t want to take a huge loss or have it sit for many months.
Here is the Craigslist link to the boat we are looking at:
https://anchorage.craigslist.org/boa/d/22-ft-dory/6553009544.html
The price for everything is obviously a little higher up here but what do you guys think? Thanks |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 2:52 am Post subject: |
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The hours are low, It has twins OB's, and it sounds like a camperback (canvas), it's on a trailer (might want to be sure that is coming with it.) and It will fit your needs (as long as the kids are not teenagers yet.) AND it has a trailer so why would you have to sell it in 3-4 years. Take it with you. They are called trailer cruisers on purpose.
Welcome here, and take advantage. Lots of help and info here.
Harvey
SleepyC
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homerjack
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 186 City/Region: Homer
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1988
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 49er
Photos: 49er
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 3:06 am Post subject: |
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Seems overpriced to me. Compare w recently sold 2007 CD22 Ashley Lynn in Classifieds here. Trouble is CDorys don't come up for sale very often here in AK. Keep in mind that there were very few changes made to CD22s over the years so that an older, well maintained one can sometimes be a great deal. Most CDory owners tend to pamper their vessels. $30k can usually get you into a very nice CD22 w trailer. Decent electronics are much cheaper and better these days. |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Also keep in mind that yes, the C-Dory may "seem" overpriced, but they do hold their value very well, maybe because they are generally well cared for. AND, they have a tendency to sell quick, so have $$$ ready. That will keep you off that dreaded "Offer list".
Harvey
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Jack in Alaska
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1190 City/Region: Anchorage/Ninilchik
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 26 Pro Angler
Vessel Name: HIGH TIDE II
Photos: HIGH TIDE II
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 3:25 am Post subject: boat for sale |
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I saw this boat today driving by his place. The boat is inside of an open sided shed.
My son & I looked at it last year as he was interested in it. Too much $$$$ for him but it is in excellent condition.
I would offer him something with a "4" as the 1st no. liike
$41,495. It has been for sale for several yrs.
4 adults and 2 kids is a load but it can work if you are all good friends and recently showered up. The boat will handle the weight but it may get a little "tight" for 6.
Good luck in your purchase.
Taking it with you after your tour up here is a good idea. I have pulled eight boats up the Alaska Hyw. w/o any problem and 7 have been C-Dory's.
Jack in Alaska _________________ On the HIGH TIDE-II, wife Carolyn and I.....Another summer fishing on the HIGH TIDE II in the Cook Inlet at Cape Ninilchik, Alaska.
HIGH TIDE-II; 2005 26' ProAngler; 2003 200 Honda / 2009 9.9 Honda high thrust
No. CD026021I405; AK-5008-AK
MSSI No. 338143486(cancelled)
HIGH TIDE; 1983 Angler Classic 22'; 90 Honda/ 9.9 Tohatsu-sold 2009 to son Dan (flatfishfool)
Stolen & stripped in Aug. 18
Bare hull & trailer sold in Nov. |
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DavidM
Joined: 24 Dec 2017 Posts: 196 City/Region: Punta Gorda
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Your offer would be about right, maybe even a little high if the boat were in the lower 48. But everything in Alaska is expensive.
David |
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PaulNBriannaLynn
Joined: 26 Oct 2012 Posts: 757 City/Region: Fort White
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: TBD
Photos: Lorelei
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Asking prices are always higher for C-dorys in Alaska. This one has a lot of desirable features, and is clean.
Here's the thing though, it's been for sale for several years? That should tell you everything you need to know about the asking price.
Your offer was fair for this boat in my opinion.
Now 4 adults and 2 kids? No way! This boat is way too small. I'm annoyed just thinking of having that many people on our boat.
We've picked up crab pots, or quick trips with 4 adults and a kid or two and it's ok, but usually I'm bossing people around and telling them where to sit. Not that much fun. _________________ 2007 22 cruiser sold 10/2021
2009 Parker 23 sold 10/2017
2003 22 cruiser sold 3/2016 |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3372 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 10:54 am Post subject: |
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PaulNBriannaLynn wrote: | ... That should tell you everything you need to know about the asking price. .... |
Maybe the guy doesn't really want to sell it. The wife tells him to get rid of the boat. He puts it for up sale. The wife asks when is he going to sell the boat. He tells the wife "I am. It's not my fault that no one has bought it yet." |
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potter water
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1076 City/Region: Logan
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 1997
C-Dory Model: R-21 Tug
Vessel Name: Poopsy
Photos: Still C-razy
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 11:46 am Post subject: |
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You are spot on if the boat is super clean and everything is running. Starting with a 4 is too high, even in AK for a 2002. Yes, the hulls don't change much, but years do add to issues like water intrusion window seals, hatch seals. And motors that just sit, often will have latent issues. Trim tab seals and electronics and other electrical connections on the boat can deteriorate with time. _________________ You can tell a man his wife is ugly, but never ever criticize his dog, his gun, his truck or his boat.
Never let ignorance interfere with an opportunity to state a knowledgeable opinion
Testosterone Tales-Amazon.com
2006 C-Dory 22 Cruiser 2008-2014
1997 Ranger Tug 21 Classic 2016
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Jack in Alaska
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1190 City/Region: Anchorage/Ninilchik
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 26 Pro Angler
Vessel Name: HIGH TIDE II
Photos: HIGH TIDE II
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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ssobol wrote: | PaulNBriannaLynn wrote: | ... That should tell you everything you need to know about the asking price. .... |
Maybe the guy doesn't really want to sell it. The wife tells him to get rid of the boat. He puts it for up sale. The wife asks when is he going to sell the boat. He tells the wife "I am. It's not my fault that no one has bought it yet." |
ssobol.........
When talking to the owner last year I got the definite feeling that your observation is correct.
It still is an excellent boat.
Jack in Alaska |
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Jack in Alaska
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1190 City/Region: Anchorage/Ninilchik
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 26 Pro Angler
Vessel Name: HIGH TIDE II
Photos: HIGH TIDE II
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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ssobol wrote: | PaulNBriannaLynn wrote: | ... That should tell you everything you need to know about the asking price. .... |
Maybe the guy doesn't really want to sell it. The wife tells him to get rid of the boat. He puts it for up sale. The wife asks when is he going to sell the boat. He tells the wife "I am. It's not my fault that no one has bought it yet." |
ssobol.........
When talking to the owner last year I got the definite feeling that your observation is correct.
It still is an excellent boat.
Jack in Alaska |
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Driftwood
Joined: 24 Aug 2017 Posts: 11
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Bettie
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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I bought a 2007 a few months ago for 32 with trailer.
I then put 2k in the trailer because the brakes were shot and the lights did not work.
Added a heater/stove, new fish finder, downriggers, stereo, and serviced radar for another 15k.
So 46 seems like a fair deal with everything that comes with it as long as it is all working.
I don't like more than 3 adults on the boat or it seems crowded.
Have Fun! |
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DavidM
Joined: 24 Dec 2017 Posts: 196 City/Region: Punta Gorda
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Driftwood wrote: | I bought a 2007 a few months ago for 32 with trailer.
I then put 2k in the trailer because the brakes were shot and the lights did not work.
Added a heater/stove, new fish finder, downriggers, stereo, and serviced radar for another 15k.
So 46 seems like a fair deal with everything that comes with it as long as it is all working.
I don't like more than 3 adults on the boat or it seems crowded.
Have Fun! |
And you had $15K of new equipment vs sixteen year old equipment in the Alaskan boat. Just like boats, equipment depreciates. That boat is probably worth 1/3 of new price and so is the extra equipment.
And FWIW, the only reason I am willing to comment on the price of that boat is the OP asked for comments and the boat was advertised on Craigslist, which IMO makes it fair game.
We should never comment on prices advertised on this forum, unless the seller asks for input.
David |
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westward
Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 718 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: TBD
Photos: Steady Eddy
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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You made a very reasonable offer IMO. The boat is 16 years old. Maybe gently used, but likely older generation motors (carb. vs. EFI) and likely older generation electronics. And apparently it's been for sale for quite a while? There are owners who don't really care if they sell, or maybe don't take a rational approach to market forces. Could this be such an owner? What if he said he wanted $60K? You see where I'm going here..
I'd move on. The only reason you'd even want to offer in the high 30's on this one is the fact you're in Alaska where everything is likely a bit more expensive. There are other boats out there and $40K is still quite a bit of money, even in the year 2018.
Best of luck in your search!
Mike.
PS: I agree with the above that commentary on boat pricing is not appropriate for boats listed on this site unless feedback is solicited. |
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Ehuber
Joined: 01 May 2018 Posts: 3 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the feedback! I will continue my search. I missed a really good deal on a 1995 22 Angler for $20K that was sold after 4 hours this weekend, it came with all the fishing/shrimp gear as well. It seems these boats don’t last long when they are priced right. Thanks again for the advice |
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