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joechiro30
Joined: 24 Sep 2014 Posts: 145 City/Region: Lynnwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:13 am Post subject: Tomcat combining fuel tanks |
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I have a Tomcat 2006 and we want to be able to convert our fuel lines so that we can utilize either gas tanks. Currently each engine has its own gas tanks but I would like to be able to siphon the fuel lines so that one engine could utilize both gas tanks. The purpose for doing this is to be able to use both gas tanks if one engine fails the other engine can use both gas tanks. Also to be able to balance the boat by utilizing one gas tank. I put more fuel in the port gas tank because the over all weight is heavier on the starboard side with the water tank and sewage all on the starboard side.
Has anyone made these changes to your boat and have any tips or advice to do this project.
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20808 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Basically takes a "T" off each tank, a few feet of hose and a two way valve--such as in the C Dory 22's, to select tank "P" or "S". The connections can be made up at the fuel filter, so that the only extra tubing is under the transom or aft seat.
If you want to pump gas from one tank to the other, then a two way valve on the intake and output of a Walbro ignition protected fuel pump.
It can be very complicated or very simple. I would go with the first choice. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5922 City/Region: Kenmore
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Meant to be
Photos: SeaDNA
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Tomcat combining fuel tanks |
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joechiro30 wrote: | I have a Tomcat 2006 and we want to be able to convert our fuel lines so that we can utilize either gas tanks. Currently each engine has its own gas tanks but I would like to be able to siphon the fuel lines so that one engine could utilize both gas tanks. The purpose for doing this is to be able to use both gas tanks if one engine fails the other engine can use both gas tanks. Also to be able to balance the boat by utilizing one gas tank. I put more fuel in the port gas tank because the over all weight is heavier on the starboard side with the water tank and sewage all on the starboard side.
Has anyone made these changes to your boat and have any tips or advice to do this project.
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Joe - take a look at this thread. I did this to my boat and the method/rationale is explained in the thread. _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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joechiro30
Joined: 24 Sep 2014 Posts: 145 City/Region: Lynnwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the diagram roger. What do you need the valves for each tank? |
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joechiro30
Joined: 24 Sep 2014 Posts: 145 City/Region: Lynnwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Also I believe that our 2006 tomcat has the 130 gallon tank
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That correct? |
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Dreamer
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 1764 City/Region: Really Sunny SaddleBrooke
State or Province: AZ
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Joe, Our 2006 TC-255 had two 75 gallon tanks. _________________ Roger
Once a C-Brat, always a C-Brat
Dreamer- Sold 25 Feb. 2013 |
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5922 City/Region: Kenmore
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Meant to be
Photos: SeaDNA
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:39 am Post subject: |
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joechiro30 wrote: | Thanks for the diagram roger. What do you need the valves for each tank? |
A few reasons. One (as I stated in the thread), I want either engine to be able to draw off of either tank in the event one engine fails. Also, with the valve set up as shown, I can run both engines off of one tank if needed (to balance or in the event of a lack of fuel in one tank). Finally, I find that with all valves open, the system seems to draw a bit more from one of the two tanks (the one with the least distance between it and the valves) so that things do become imbalanced over time. |
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pwsuser
Joined: 24 Jun 2012 Posts: 30 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: LOKI
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:01 am Post subject: Tomcat combining fuel tanks |
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Hi, I have a 2006 Tomcat and I combined my tanks the way it showed in the diagram. I did a quick job and my combining valve was not always easy to find so I redid it. This time I used just two T valves and mounted them on the fuel filters so I could reach them. With just two valves when you run normally from one tank to one motor the gas runs across the top of the T valve and the bottom valve is closed. To run say both motors from the starboard tank then the starboard T valve will have gas coming from the tank into the top left portion of the T valve and running to the motor out the top right portion of the T valve, like when you run with one motor on each tank, but now the bottom portion of the T valve must also be open and this crosses over to run the port motor. So all three holes in the T valve need to be open. The issue is that I could not find a T valve with three holes, so I bought 2 with two holes, took them apart and drilled a third hole. Now it works fine and I only have two valves to find and switch. Hope this wasn't too confusing.
Dave _________________ PWSUSER |
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Robert H. Wilkinson
Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 1234 City/Region: Port Ryerse
State or Province: ON
Vessel Name: Romakeme IV
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:05 am Post subject: |
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With an electric fuel pump - no problem, but for anybody with mechanical fuel pumps it can be problematic if you run one tank dry. My Campion had twin tanks with a switch and a mechanical pump. If I ran 1 tank out it required a LOT of cranking to get the mechanical pump primed from the second tank. Excessive cranking can lead to a number of problems. I eventually installed an electric pump in line solely for the purpose of priming. In the event of a mechanical pump failure I could have re-plumbed the electric to by pass the mechanical pump. Gas should not be pumped through a defective mechanical pump. If the diaphragm is compromised you can end up pumping gas into the engine crankcase(diluting oil).
Regards, Rob
PS. This experience pertains to an older inboard. Smaller outboards may not have this problem esp. if it includes a priming bulb in line.
PSS. All switches need to be clearly marked and easily accessed. You always need to be 100% sure where you are drawing gas from at any given time. Sometimes in rough weather you may run your tank empty quicker than expected and need to get re started as quick as possible. Rough weather and a low tank can also stir up crud and suck it into your filters. _________________ Talk to me and I will listen-- but if its not about boats or fishing all I will hear is bla,bla,bla,yada,yada,zzzzzzzz |
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