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joechiro30



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:43 am    Post subject: Offshore tomcat 255 Reply with quote

I had a simple question about how many guys I could safely fit going offshore at neahbay to the halibut grounds. With halibut gear how many guys do you think I can take? I was planning on 5 guys. We would be taking turns fishing 3 guys at the back.
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Gene Morris



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe;

The TomCat has an occupant capacity of 13 people. We go off shore, as much as 75nm for tuna. I take anywhere from 4 to 7 people and about 200 lbs of ice.

Gene

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gene Morris wrote:
Joe;

The TomCat has an occupant capacity of 13 people. We go off shore, as much as 75nm for tuna. I take anywhere from 4 to 7 people and about 200 lbs of ice.

Gene


Very encouraging to hear. That is awesome! How do you arrange seating for the long trips offshore? How many guys do you fish at the back?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as fishing is concerned, we take turns. With tuna, we run 5 rods. All or a few may go off simultaneously. It’s a rodeo on the back deck. Everyone is busy catching, gaffing tossing live bait. Halibut is more civilized (until you bring a big one on deck). It’s a matter of taking turns. It depends on the drift and the current how many rods you can run.
As for seating....not everyone sits all the time. One usually has had a late night and likes to nap in the berth. We can seat 4 at the dinette and of course the Captain takes the helm. Sometimes we drop the table and have a bench couch. 4-5 people is a nice number but if more want to join in and take turns they are welcome. We have some extra PFDs. Most of our friends have their own. We always wear them.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Offshore tomcat 255 Reply with quote

joechiro30 wrote:
I had a simple question about how many guys I could safely fit going offshore at neahbay to the halibut grounds. With halibut gear how many guys do you think I can take? I was planning on 5 guys. We would be taking turns fishing 3 guys at the back.


Safely and comfortably are two different things. I've had 5 (including me) on my Tomcat fishing tuna offshore out of Neah Bay. That works but I wouldn't take any more. IMO 3-4 is ideal but a lot of that is because I like to get my fish and return to shore to relax. Getting limits for 5 guys takes about 5/3 times as long as getting limits for 3 guys.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with Roger on the halibut fishing. Can take a long time to catch halibut. You may never get “your turn at bat”.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on where you're fishing Gene Smile
Ya, four is a good number, with four rods you can get a good scent trail going, catch your limits and move on to torment other species

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken;

At the cove I like three rods going. My boat's cockpit is to small to fish more rods for the Mud Bay halibut. But, tuna 5 is good and 3 live bait rods waiting for the hook-up.

See you in EC for the middle of July. (Are you still working?)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger;

What's your limit on Tuna up there? We rarely even think about getting limits. There's not enough ice or room for 25 tuna each. When we hit 20 or so it's time to call it a day and go out again soon.

Ken;

When fishing Halibut at the Cove we usually run 2 or 3 lines. The cockpit isn't large enough for more. When fishing Albacore here 5 rods are sometimes too many. We have 3 live bait rods ready to go when there's a hook up.

Margaret & I will see you at the cove in the middle of July.
( Are you still working?)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gene, I'll be back at the prison labor camp, it's a damn disease, see you two there
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses. We plan to fish Neah Bay near SWC or 72 square and we are taking 5 guys. Any tips on how to set up the rods and how many rods to use while drifting over 500+ feet of water using 2-3 pounds of weight.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe;


Two Words

ELECTRIC REELS
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I got the tanacoms
They are life saviors
How many rods can you drift with?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe;

I have never fished in water deeper than about 300 ft. The number of rods is dependent on depth fishing and strength of current. We strive to keep the lines straight down with as little scope as possible. So Line size and weights on all rods be equal. Most of my halibut fishing is at anchor instead of drifting so we always have some scope on the lines unless there is zero current.

Gene
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gene Morris wrote:
Roger;

What's your limit on Tuna up there? We rarely even think about getting limits. There's not enough ice or room for 25 tuna each. When we hit 20 or so it's time to call it a day and go out again soon.

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Gene


In WA, there's no limit on albacore (other than the practical limit of how much ice you can carry and how many fish you can properly kill, cool and handle. We don't have live bait out of Neah Bay, so the most we've picked up on the troll is 21 + 1 yellowtail. I'm working on getting the live bait thing figured out at Ilwaco. I imagine we'll get it down this summer.
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