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cattlejack
Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 46 City/Region: Leonardtown
State or Province: MD
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:57 am Post subject: it's popcorn time again |
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C-Dory, and not the Tomcat, or Rosborough, what's the better of the two for live aboard comfort? |
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san juanderer
Joined: 12 Aug 2014 Posts: 235 City/Region: Stanwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1990
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:48 am Post subject: |
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I owned a RF246. Nice boat.
It is a thru the water boat.
C-dory, on top of the water boat.
They don't make a 50 footer, I choose my house. _________________ Cdory 22 Angler
SeaSport 24XL, Etec 250 hp (sold)
Rosborough RF246 (sold)
Commander 30 Sportfish (sold)
Olympic 26 XL (sold)
Glassply 19 (sold)
Olympic 23 (sold)
Bayliner 38 Motoryacht (sold)
Olympic 20 (sold)
Fiberform 16 (sold)
Olympic 18 (sold) |
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1521 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
Photos: W B Nod
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:00 am Post subject: |
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"Better" lies in the eye of the beholder.
Given the ''perfect" boat does not exist,
it's all a judgement based on your particular
likes and dislikes.
Worse yet, your tastes change. Just look at the
list of vessels owned, or previously owned, by
many in this forum.
Mine aren't listed. Still, I'm one of "them".
Aye. _________________ "I don't want any cake" - said no one ever.
If someone tells you they don't eat cake, unfriend them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life. |
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PaulNBriannaLynn
Joined: 26 Oct 2012 Posts: 757 City/Region: Fort White
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: TBD
Photos: Lorelei
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:04 am Post subject: |
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We've only ever spent any significant time on the 22, but have been aboard the other boats you listed. They are much larger but only a little more suitable for living aboard. I would want a much more comfortable, larger vessel if it was my home. If I had to choose, it would be the 255 Tomcat which you excluded. Than the RF246.
The 22 makes us want to get off the boat and stretch our legs often. In fact we have only done about 10 continuous days on the boat at a time. Its just too small for me to live in more than a week or two. Plenty of people have done it though and been just fine. _________________ 2007 22 cruiser sold 10/2021
2009 Parker 23 sold 10/2017
2003 22 cruiser sold 3/2016 |
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cattlejack
Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 46 City/Region: Leonardtown
State or Province: MD
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:28 am Post subject: |
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A weed is an opinion.
I was looking for feed back from those who have experience with one or the other, or both |
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BillE
Joined: 09 Jun 2016 Posts: 283 City/Region: Nashville
State or Province: TN
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: TBD
Photos: BillE
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:49 am Post subject: |
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cattlejack my only experience is as a boat shopper but I've been looking hard at both and I see two big benefits of the RF-246. First is that you have sit-up headroom in the V-berth, which makes this a second room usable for more than crawling in and sleeping. Second, the large cockpit with hardtop is yet another "room", and if not traveling solo then those extra rooms could be most important when the two of you need to not see each other right at this exact moment! We've stayed for married 37 years by knowing when to get out of each other's way. That hardtop would be handy for storage, too.
Other comfort factors will depend on your height, as a High-Top C-Dory will be better for taller people and the V-berth may be longer as well.
That is all about living comfort, but if trailering, that Rossie is big and heavy, and the tow would be outside my comfort zone, which is a different type of comfort. _________________ Bill & Sherry C-25 sold 2020, next? |
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1521 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
Photos: W B Nod
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:54 am Post subject: |
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I've been aboard a CD 22. Too little space.
I owned a CD 26. OK for a couple maybe a week or so.
Sold the CD 26 after 3+ years.
Now on a 32 twin inboard w/13' beam and happy about
the space but not the gas.
Does this help?
Aye.
Owned a 42' fractional rigged catamaran. Now you're talkin'
if you like live aboard space AND fuel economy!
Grandpa used to say, "Remember, our in-laws survived living in a cave." |
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smckean (Tosca)
Joined: 18 Jan 2014 Posts: 975 City/Region: Guemes Island (Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Tosca
Photos: Tosca
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | V-berth.......usable for more than crawling in and sleeping. |
Actually, I don't know what I'd do on my CD25 without using the V-berth for duffle bag, computer, bags of food, jackets, life jacket, etc storage when not sleeping. |
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Jake
Joined: 31 Jan 2012 Posts: 171
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Rosborough based on my experience. |
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starcrafttom
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 7881 City/Region: marysville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: to be decided later
Photos: Susan E
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Given the ''perfect" boat does not exist,
it's all a judgement based on your particular
likes and dislikes. |
Or more to the point "USE" there are a lot of boats that I would like to have , hell do have. I am up to 10 floating objects right now and about to go get another 16 ft boat next week. It all depends on what your use is. Even in cruising my use or the core of my use maybe different then your core use. Pat and Patty like to cruise slow and anchor up early to enjoy sun downers. I like to run and gun to different fishing spots OR sleep in and then explore with the kayaks before pulling up late in the day and running to the next anchorage. So we are both small boat cruisers that need that boat to be on a trailer but we cruise in different manners. _________________ Thomas J Elliott
http://tomsfishinggear.blogspot.com/ |
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cattlejack
Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 46 City/Region: Leonardtown
State or Province: MD
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe I should have put my question this way on this site. Why is a C-dory"better" than a rosborugh? |
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1521 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
Photos: W B Nod
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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cattlejack wrote: | Maybe I should have put my question this way on this site. Why is a C-dory"better" than a rosborugh? |
That is a judgement on your part. Not everyone would agree a C-Dory 'is' better
than a rosborough.
I've brainstormed, with others, what would be the minimum number of boats one
would need to go anywhere in any weather you might go out in otherwise or get
caught in. The number is 4.
1. Long distance cruises windy, rough conditions (large sailboat).
2. Long distance cruises mostly protected or near shore waters (large powerboat).
3. Short day trips lots of wind (smaller sailboat).
4. Short day trips no wind, flat water (smaller powerboat).
After several sessions having beach sundowners (no popcorn), we concluded this
would do us nicely.
Aye. |
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 7445 City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
State or Province: AZ
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: "Wild Blue" (sold 9/14)
Photos: Wild Blue
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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cattlejack wrote: | Maybe I should have put my question this way on this site. Why is a C-dory"better" than a rosborugh? |
It isn't. It is different. The C-Dory was my choice at the time due to weight, trailerability, and frankly: this forum. Maybe Merv (Grumpy) or Byrdman will comment here, since they have owned boats from both manufacturers.
Liveaboard? Both are small boats. We managed it fine for months at a time, but we knew there was a house waiting for us when we got home. Living aboard, like Bill and El did for the better part of a decade (on a CD-22), is a completely different situation.
We had friends look inside our boat who would look at us and say, "How do you not kill each other?" You do (and buy) what works best for your use. |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3372 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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The Rosborough 246 is more comparable to the CD25 than the CD22. The biggest difference between the CD25 and the 246 is that you can actually stand up in the berth on the 246. The main cabin on the two is about the same size although the 246 is taller.
On the 246 there are the side doors. However, these are kind of half size doors you cannot just step out of from the helm. You have to climb up and out. They are more useful than the sliding windows on the CD25, but probably not as much as you might think.
The 246 is about a ton heavier than a CD25 (using real world numbers). With the different hull shape, the 246 is likely a better ride, but you still have to move the extra weight around. Both on the water and on the land.
The 246 can be as either single OB, twin OB, or single diesel inboard. Current production CDs are OB only.
When I was boat shopping the 246 was on my shortlist. I looked at one and something about it put me off. Can't say what exactly, but I decided it was not what I wanted.
In my situation we have to drive a minimum of about 50 miles each way every time we put the boat in the water. We went with a CD22 because of it's portability. |
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4547 City/Region: Madison
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Traveler
Photos: C-Traveler and Midnight-Flyer
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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You should have come to the St. John's River Gathering. We not only had all the various sizes of C-Dory, including some brand new ones from the factory, but we had/have one 23' Ranger Tug and one 24.5' Rosebourough. You could have climbed all over any of them and probably gone out for a ride to see how they felt on the River! All the boats are nice. I'm still quite satisfied with my 22' C-Dory! Colby |
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