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snal



Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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City/Region: Asheville
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C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Thelma Lou
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:57 pm    Post subject: Hull value???? Reply with quote

Any idea what the value would be on a 22 cruiser hull and trailer should be? I found one that has a blown honda 90 (no value there). Seller is asking $5k. It's a 1999 model on a dual axle trailer.
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starcrafttom



Joined: 07 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just give me that guys number and I will deal with it. 5k for a boat and trailer? Is there rot? NO? then buy it. No really a motor is only 8 k or so. another 2 k for electronics. 5 + 8+ 2=15k When have you seen a cdory for less them 25K ?
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snal



Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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City/Region: Asheville
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C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Thelma Lou
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just talked to the guy. Boat was a research vessel, got tied up wrong at the dock and sank in 6' of saltwater. Honda was running at the time and ingested salt water. Ran afterwards, now has no spark. Listed it as hull and trailer since the engine appears shot.
I wonder what damage the hull got now.
The boat is 4 hours from me.
Pick shows that the front portion of the bow rail is missing....seller said it got damaged when the boat sank.
Hmmmmm
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starcrafttom



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be interested in the time it was in the water and what was done to dry it out. More of a worry for the wood interior then the hull. Railing should not be to hard to replace. hell order one from the factory as worse. More is trash unless you are a great mechanic. good for parts. the salt may not have damaged the motor but the salt and moister most likely did a number on the electronics that run the motor.
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RichardM



Joined: 28 Mar 2012
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City/Region: Akron
State or Province: OH
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Pangur Ban
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's interesting that the motor "ran afterwards" If that is true, at least the water was pumped out and maybe the oil circulated. I'd check with a couple real mechanics. "Up north" in Canada where snowmobiles fall into lakes every winter (while running) they routinely get them out and running again. Not certain that applies here, but you should investigate.

The hull still sounds like a super deal, even if you had to do some "opening up" beneath the V-berth seats and elsewhere. You can get lots of tips on that on this site.
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snal



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a friend in the area that will go check it out tomorrow, and report his findings.
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thataway



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say it is a bargain, unless there is severe damage to the interior or severe water intrusion into the core of the hull...Even that could be fixed fairly easily--pull out all of the wooden furniture, and then pull the floor and re-core.
If the interior is trashed, then just use the old for templates, and build a new and lighter interior. (See the thread on "HawesPiper interior mods.")

In any case the wiring should probably be replaced.

If an engine is submerged, it should be kept in fresh water, until ready to do the proper pickling. (the sooner the better) The oil drained, and and the engine flushed multiple times with first diesel/oil, then light oil, and then several flush of oil. Squirt oil into the cylinders and turn over by hand during each of the flushing. Finally fire it up--but usually ECU and the electrical components have to be replaced.

Sounds suspicious "tied up wrong, engine running, and sank?" There is much more likely to be engine damage from ingestion of water, (one cyl firing when the other has filled partly with water comes to mind--crank and bearing damage?) I would tear the engine down completely if you want to try and salvage it.

There are boast which have to be repowered going for many times the 5K...

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kaelc



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn’t make the trip without a good FaceTime/Skype walk around. Visible hull damage can add up quickly. Old wiring that needs to be re-done, plus the usual running boat (bring on another thousand) costs, mean most Boat bargains often a person asking to much for the work that needs to be done but maybe you found the perfect sunken boat. Let us know if you find a gem!
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digger



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:42 pm    Post subject: Buy it Reply with quote

I would in a minute. Cushions would come off foam and could be cleaned and new foam. Wiring is minimal, as well as instruments. Engines can be salvaged. I have been able to rehab 2 engines by buying new starter and carbs. This one ran afterwards, so may be fuel injection. At minimum, parts could be sold from engine. There is good value. If you do not want it there will be many of us that would jump on it.
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CraigJ



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snal wrote:
Have a friend in the area that will go check it out tomorrow, and report his findings.


Well, what did you find out. This boat is local to me, but I have been busy with work and not able to pursue it. It really isn't what I'm interested in anyways.
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SEA3PO



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALL of the electrical wiring will need ro be replaced... I once bought a boat that had sunk in fresh water....it had terrible shorts in the wiring all the time I owned it...needed a total rewire..

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