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Barry Rietz



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:43 pm    Post subject: 2018 Mercury Outboards Reply with quote

https://www.boatingmag.com/new-mercury-2018-34l-four-stroke-outboards-preview?cmpid=enewsh021518
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starcrafttom



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinmboots77/24313869790/in/pool-starwarslego/

Sorry but the front of that motor looks like these guys. first thing I saw when I looked at it.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it! Especially that oil check door and the ability to remove the cowling by top access. Looks like smart, functional changes to me. I'm on my 3rd Merc motor, and they've all been very reliable.
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BillE



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 200 or 225 6 cylinder that weighs close to most 150 4 cylinders is going to get some attention, especially where the power limitation is based upon the weight of the motor.
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Chester



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The looks are, to a degree, driven by function. Among other things the access door, exhaust manifold, sound attenuation, motorwell clearance etc.
Watch the maintenance videos. It will be a cinch to check the oil level, change the oil and flush the engine.
You ever hear a Mercury Verado idle? Neither has anyone else...
This new design is 'sposed to be even quieter.

https://youtu.be/iZo1nXCmmQ0?t=4
https://youtu.be/CG5nNqJPgXc?t=4
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not say it was a bad look just , just that it reminded me of storm trooper.

I do like the door, oil and release. Those are good designs. did not notice the weight numbers. Will have to look at that.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looked up the stat's and its 110lbs lighter then my 2005 honda 225. That is a lot.
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T.R. Bauer



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it is a slightly different animal, but the Merc 115 looks pretty awesome for a CD 22. They are way light too.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you can put counter rotating Merc 115s on a 25.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The single 200 HP Merc weight is 475#, two 115's (30 over the HP rated for the boat), would weigh 718# (359# each)...that means a lot of extra weight on the transom. There are a number of 25's powered with twin 90''s which weigh more than this, but I am not sure that it is worth the extra weight. 200 hp is plenty for the 25. My impression is that somewhere over 30 mph the boats all get a little more difficult to control. The boats handle very well with 150 hp--granted that 200 hp is an advantage at high elevation and heavily loaded. We did OK with 130 hp (closer to the 115 Honda) on our 25, even loaded for a month's food and gear in AK. But I would have loved to had a bit more power--would not have needed more than 200 hp.

Colby has a 115 on his 22, and I am impressed by it--I am not sure what the weight is, since the motor is several years old. I certainly would consider a Merc if I was re-powering.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm one or two Mercury repower event from hanging a 115 on the back of my boat. While they still work very well, the Honda 45s I have best days are far behind them at well over 2000 hours and 25 years old. I would bet the 115 would propel a loaded 22 at 25-30 mph with ease. My 45s will do that too, but it is really pushing them harder than I am comfortable with as they are at 5500-6000 rpm (or more) and are at or near full throttle. I know I'm crazy not to run them until they explode....LOL....which I don't think will ever happen since they are as quiet as a church mouse mechanically speaking. It's more likely they just corrode away....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chester wrote:
And you can put counter rotating Merc 115s on a 25.


Should have mentioned I got this from a C-Dory dealer who got it from C-Dory.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chester wrote:
Chester wrote:
And you can put counter rotating Merc 115s on a 25.


Should have mentioned I got this from a C-Dory dealer who got it from C-Dory.


Problem is that C Dory dealers and the factory don't have as much experience with the boats as those of us who own them.... The factory web site (even thought the "Specifications" sections, still bears the "Fluid Marine" tag,) lists the Max. Hp for the C Dory 25 as "up to 200 Hp" With that statement on the web site, I suspect that putting 230 Hp on the transom would void any warrantee on the boat. I don't know about the current boats, but my 2003 was marginal in the support of the transom. The wooden core did not go all of the way across the transom, and the very thin laminate of the splash well appeared to have been engineered to take the thrust of the engine...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the current model Merc 90, which is the same as the 115, and so far really like it, about 250 hours in. It's quiet and smooth and super easy to maintain. All the outboard brands are good and I would buy any of them, but the main reason I went with Merc is because for not much more weight (363 lbs vs 353 Yam, 343 Suzuki and 359 Honda) you get larger displacement (2.1L vs 1.8, 1.5, & 1.5L), and the larger (optional) Command Thrust lower unit, on which I've been running a 15"D x 17"P prop. Because of the larger displacement, I didn't see a need to spend the extra $$ on the 115 for the 22 and have had no regrets with the 90. Another C-Brat has a 115 CT on his Venture 23 and seems to like, maybe he'll weigh in as well. I feel these Command Thrust versions have a lot of torque and power for their weight, similar to the E-Tec 90 I once had on a different boat (except the Merc is a lot quieter and smoother).

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:03 am    Post subject: merc 115 ct Reply with quote

yes we have the 2016 merc 115CT it's an awesome motor.Ilove the bigger prop we to run a 15by 17p prop and WOT is 5500rpm at about 32-33 mph with just one person and light on fuel.my venture 23 (cape cruiser)weighs in about 4000lb.with 6 people on board we can still do 22-23mph which isthe sweet spot at 4200rpm.I've had almost evry kind of outboar dand so far 130 hours this has beenone of the best.
BTW wen tfrom 115yamaha to merc115 CT jim

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