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Nash 22
Joined: 08 May 2017 Posts: 22 City/Region: Annapolis
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:36 pm Post subject: Anchor Drum Winch |
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Hi -
Is there anyone who has installed an anchor drum winch on a C-Dory?
What are your thoughts on this set up?
Does anyone have any pictures?
Thanks,
Nash[/img] _________________ ----------------
2006 22' Cruiser - 90hp
1999 Chaparral 240 Signature - sold 2018
1986 Regal Bowrider - sold 2007
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12637 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Hi Nash,
To my knowledge, of those active here on the site, I believe there was one tried on a TomCat255, and it might have been Warren but don't remember for sure if he actually did it or just talked about it.
They take a lot of room, and and a bunch of weight from what I remember from the discussion here on the site.
Harvey
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Sea Wolf
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Back about 10 or so years ago, we discussed some on a boat or two or so in Alaska.
Yes, they took a lot of room, but were useful in holding all the rope necessary for anchoring in deep water.
Features a simple design, and is perhaps more foolproof than using a more conventional windlass and the anchor rode locker designed into the bow of the boat.
Anything to avoid going forward on the bow in rough, freezing cold weather and water!
Very much a utility approach, but whatever works, works!
If you notice, a lot of the C-Dories in Alaska borrow lot of ideas from the commercial fishermen there.
Joe.  _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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thataway
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Warren was the one who put the drum on his 255. My son has his old Lewmar windlass now. My recollection as we talked about his winch, was the amount of line it would hold.
One of the issues is getting enough line--using one of the synthetics such as Spectra which allows a very thin line with the same SWL. But...there is no elasticity and it is difficult to put a snubber on the thin spectra line.
Consider how much line and chain you want. See if you can find a drum winch which will hold this much, without too large a footprint. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
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olsurfdog
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3559 City/Region: SW Michigan
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12637 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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I often see those for stern tie use, but not sure the working load would stand up to anchoring loads. I wonder if the flat rope would "buzz" if it was down in a strong current. Just my thoughts.
Harvey
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ssobol
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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The vendors at the boat shows claim the flat rope is sufficient for anchoring. However, I think that it does not have the same shock absorbing stretch as 3 strand nylon. |
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thataway
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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You can buy Mil. spec. flat 1" nylon webbing with breaking strength at over 4000# for 38 cents a foot for 300 feet: That means that for $114 you can get about the same as you pay over $1000 for the "Flat line" which has polyester in it..
I picked up 200 feet of 3/4" parachute nylon tubing surpluses WWII, and used it for years, everything from winching a 2 1/2 ton truck out of the mud, to a stern anchor on a 30 foot sailboat. I suspect it was higher working load than the flat nylon. It did not have much elasticity. One has to sew the loop into the end of the tubing or flat --knots do weaken it significantly. |
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Nash 22
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Thank you everyone for the information. This would be a great change to manually dropping and raising the anchor. The regular winlass does not appeal to me as I don't want wet rope in the v-berth.
Thanks again!
Nash |
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nimrod
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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I had one of these on my Nordic Tug. They're pretty bullet-proof.
jd |
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olsurfdog
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Nash22,
If you do install one, let us know how it works out. I'd love to hear about it --sure others would too!! Thanks |
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stevej
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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I (Shearwater) love my big ugly reel windless, never found the front deck of much practical use so did not mind giving up the space.
Thing is a beast, uses a made in USA Ramsey winch motor so parts and repair should never be an issue if needed. Honestly I don't bother to power up on the anchor to pull, hit the switch, drag the boat up to the anchor and reel it in. Having visibility to the rode and chain as it winds on the reel is a big plus. Worst case you give the chain a shove to one side if it starts stacking up.
It's been 100% reliable over 5 years, shows no signs of rust and it just works every time you need it to. Change the gear oil every couple of years for maintenance and replaced one of the gearbox fill plugs with a vented plug.
Was so nice in Alaska, no need to go outside in the pouring rain to set or retrieve, cleat/uncleat the rode. Painless as hit the switch!
But I see the new generation is using an EZanchor branded motor and they no longer advertise as made in the USA?
So a little google work came up with
E-Z Anchor Puller Mfg. Co. was founded in 1990 by life-long entrepreneur George L. Towns in Ludington, Michigan. Since being acquired by new investors in 2011,
That "acquired by new investors" generally speaks volumes about model line changes. AKA made in china/india to increase profit now that George is not running the show.
New product line could be as robust and reliable as the original but there was an appeal about being powered by a highly reputed and respected USA manufacture when I made the purchase.
stevej _________________ 1995 25' Cruise Ship #3 |
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hardee
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Steve, what is the footprint of that drum winch, Please?
Harvey
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thataway
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