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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2770 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Just a heads up. I may not be able to attend LP this year. We have some real estate issues that could possibly keep us closer to home. _________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4559 City/Region: Madison
State or Province: WI
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'm still planning on being there late on the 17th. Since Oak Canyon seems to be the place everyone talks about, I'll get there before Friday and scope out and lay stake to some land. I don't really know anything about hosting these gatherings, other than having fun amongst the company of other's, so I'll just look forward to being there and hopefully we'll have a good turnout. I'll have my AIS transmitting anytime I'm running, and maybe some when I'm anchored Friday afternoon, Saturday, so if your VHF picks up AIS, just look for Midnight. Colby |
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jkidd
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 1622 City/Region: Northern, Utah
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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That will be the first time I’ve ever seen AIS on Lake Powell. _________________ Jody Kidd
KE7WNG
Northern, Utah
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jkidd
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 1622 City/Region: Northern, Utah
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Just a heads up most of the mapping has Oak Canyon and Secret Canyon swapped on the map. It comes from the original Topo maps being wrong. Oak is at the back of a big open bay. Secret just looks like a secret entrance. |
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4559 City/Region: Madison
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I've got several maps, but mostly use the Stan Johnson one, I believe. Don't have it with me now, and up in Door County on Green Bay! I'm assuming it is accurate. I also have Garmin's current charts on my Chartplotter. Colby |
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Hunkydory
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2660 City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Steve, sure hope you make it, as we haven’t seen you & Diana since Marie & you were catching fish early every morning & that was one of my favorite Gatherings there.
Colby, if all goes well, I should be at Oak Canyon by Thursday the 20th or before. We should be able to stake out a workable site if Steve doesn’t make it.
Jody, I hope to see you Aug 23rd in Yellowstone & then again at Powell.
Jay _________________ Jay and Jolee 2000 22 CD cruiser Hunkydory
I will not waste my days in trying to prolong them------Jack London
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4559 City/Region: Madison
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm showing Oak just west of the canyon going into Rainbow Bridge. You are right, my Fishing Hotspots data map is showing them crossed. However I have the correct canyons marked from prior waypoints. Oak is in the bottom or south end of that big bay, while Secret takes off to the west inside that same bay. Sounds good Jay. |
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jkidd
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 1622 City/Region: Northern, Utah
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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My currant Stan Jones map is backwards. They kind of go back and forth. Someone is going to have to fix the old topo maps before they’ll stop going back and forth. |
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Discovery
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Steve, When will you know if your going to Powell or not? We're still in Slodotna, AK. _________________
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2770 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Brent, I hope to know this coming week. |
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2770 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Oops, duplicate |
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ssobol
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Better enjoy Lake Powell while you can. In a couple of years it may not be there anymore.
They expect Lake Mead to reach emergency level in 2021. One option being discussed is to remove Glen Canyon dam and let all the water in Lake Powell go into Lake Mead to restore the water levels there.
Apparently Lake Powell is quite "leaky" and Lake Mead is not. To conserve more water it is better to store it in Lake Mead.
Of course the real problem is the reduced winter snow pack over the last 14 years that feed the reservoir system and the widespread development in the southwest that consumes more water than is available.
https://knpr.org/knpr/2016-05/could-draining-lake-powell-save-lake-mead |
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jkidd
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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You don’t have to worry it won’t happen. That’s just GCI’s BS. |
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4559 City/Region: Madison
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | One option being discussed is to remove Glen Canyon dam |
I think that's been discussed for a decade now... |
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thataway
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that blowing Glen Canyon Dam is very unlikely. There is an obligatory water discharge from the Treaty of 1922 giving the water from the Colorado River to 7 states. Calif and Arizona (plus Mexico) are lower down the river. Thus Mead also has to let water out. Las Vegas put in new water intakes several years ago at a lower level--and more water rationing may be required.
The WY 2018 snowpack in the drainage basin is very low, (never reached 100% and june was at 20% of normal june level. The lake is 33' lower than a year ago this date. Good news is that Castle Rock cutoff is still open, with about 19 foot depth. Some years this time it was already closed. The volume of water is just over 48% full pool levels.
There is the issue of many tons of silt which has accumulated in the upper lake--in all major arms. This could have an impact on the Grand Canyon.
There is power generation from both Glen Canyon and Bolder Dam.
There would be massive ecological changes if the river were allowed to go back to its natural flow, by blowing ALL of the dams on the river! But maybe that's not such a bad idea! _________________ Bob Austin
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