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cwericsson



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:09 pm    Post subject: Hoisting my C-Dory Reply with quote

If possible I would prefer to hoist my boat rather than trailer launch it.
However, it doesn't come with hoist points.
Have others added hoist points or do you use straps. If so, type, length, and manufacturer of the straps.

Thanks, Carl
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that hoisting a boat, any boat, is better than backing the trailer in. But you have to have a hoist. Is there one near you? Why don't you ask them about how they hoist a boat in? And you need a boat set up for hoisting. For example, Anacortes doesn't launch from bunk trailers, because there's no way to pass the straps between the bunks and boat. So you need a cutout or a roller trailer.

Journey On sits on a roller trailer with front and rear sets of rollers. There's a good starting point: under the front of the cabin and the middle of the cockpit. You're trying to keep the center of gravity in the middle, between the straps.

And don't forget the spreader bars, unless you're using a regular rolling hoist, such as a Travel-all.

How about finding a place that uses a forklift? I believe that places that store your boat and launch it when you call use a fork lift.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I'll check with the ones who hoist boats near me and find out what they require.
Carl

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For example, Anacortes doesn't launch from bunk trailers, because there's no way to pass the straps between the bunks and boat. So you need a cutout or a roller trailer.


Boris, I don't know about Anacortes, but not true for Cap Santa. They launched my boat and I have a bunk trailer. The bunks don't go all the way forward, so no problem putting a strap on the bow. For the stern, they just jacked the boat up slightly with a floor jack and piece of wood, then slid the sling under. Worked fine. Colby
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sling-in marinas around here are just hooking a clip to each of the eyes on the transom, and a strap through the bow eye. Theyíre launching dozens or more each day without any issues that Iíve heard of. Many much heavier than a c-dory 22.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cap Sante told me they do not require bunk slots for boats under 8000 pounds and 26 feet.

I chose to launch at a ramp anyway.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My boat doesn't have any transom hoist points, so I would have to install them. If I can instead buy two hoist straps, that would be a lot easier. I can fabricate spreader bars. I know I will have to trailer launch when no other option is available. Thanks.
Carl
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are you launching? I have never known of a commercial lift or crane where you had to supply your own lifts.

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The sling-in marinas around here are just hooking a clip to each of the eyes on the transom, and a strap through the bow eye. Theyíre launching dozens or more each day without any issues that Iíve heard of. Many much heavier than a c-dory 22.


The above is interesting, since some of the bow and stern eyes I have seen on various boats are not up to the loads of lifting. I towed my Grady White 20 Weekender--and had to beef up the bow eye just to tow it behind my Symbol MY. Do they require an inspection of the eyes and way they are fabricated and placed into the hulls?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the transom eyes on my boat bent under the load of towing a person on a tube. Wouldn't try lifting the boat that way.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thataway wrote:
Where are you launching? I have never known of a commercial lift or crane where you had to supply your own lifts.


There are probably differences in different parts of the country (like those crazy East coat marina slips vs. "normal" West coast slips, LOL), but Cap Sante Marina also has a "small boat hoist" over by the P/Q docks which the user operates and supplies own straps / harnesses. It's rated for something like 5000 lbs, but they don't allow you to drive a vehicle onto the pier, so you have to un-hitch and push your boat over to the hoist.

I've thought about using it for the 16, but the extra $25 for the regular sling launch that the Marina operates and provide straps for, without having to unhitch and push your boat, makes the regular sling launch a no-brainer given the two choices. And yes, with the regular sling launch at Cap Sante, bunks are not an issue, same as Edmonds.. they usually just charge a little more for the extra hassle of putting the jack or blocks under the transom.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can not believe what I have just read. Transom tow eyes and bow eyes are for towing. And the actual weight imposed on those components in a towing application, are far different than a lifting situation.
Now to the hull. A hull is built with a backbone of sorts, whether on a trailer or in the water it bears it weight on it's bottom of the hull.
To pick it up at three end points, causes tremendous forces at all kinds of places in the hull. The lifting action is wanting to fold it.
With the sling/strap system ( the more straps the better ) and don't allow the strap system to pinch in the gunnel.
A boat is built to bear/ or lift it's weight bearing on it's bottom.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me take a swing at the true problem. Why would you not want to use a trailer to launch? far safer and far easier then a sling. Is it a matter of lack of training? Horror stories from friends that have a lack of training? Rust stories from people that don't rinse? Using a trailer is by far the simplest easy cheapest and safest way to get your boat in the water.

So why do you not want to use the trailer you have?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Tom on this one. Simpler, safer, and more convenient. You are not relying on someone else to do the lifting, or something else, (rings and slings), that could fail and make a real mess, nor are you bound to some other time table other than your own.

Trailering is not hard, backing can be learned, and many more launch sites available.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and remember that every time you use a sling you will be signing a paper that relieves them from any responsibility to damage to your boat EVEN if they drop it>
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP and I are in the same area. Thereís a lot of really small ďmarinasĒ, that hoist boats in for a small fee. Thereís no waivers to sign or anything like that. You back up under the hoist and the salty marina assistant puts it in the water for you. A lot of the ramps get silted in so the hoist is popular here. I donít suggest anyone use their tow eyes for this purpose, but thatís what Iíve seen time and time again down here. I have a ramp nearby so Iíll probably just use that with my own boat, though we did hoist our Parker in there before we sold it.
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