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Ferg
Joined: 18 Jun 2015 Posts: 187 City/Region: Oak Island
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:08 pm Post subject: Strange overheating alarm on 2008 Honda 135 |
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If I suddenly take the RPMs down from cruising speed (4400rpm for me) to idle speed, I get an immediate overheat alarm. I shut down and restart, and go on my merry way. It's happened twice now.
Engine has been flushed with Salt-Terminator after each use, new thermostats, newish impeller, good flow from the pee.
I'm guessing it's the sensor switch gone bad.
Thoughts? |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21551 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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I saw the same thing on a 150 which I had been running fairly hard, and brought down to idle. The flow seemed to be fine--I suspect that there was some localized overheating--and in the case I had, I brought the engine back up to a fast idle.
I always back down, and make sure that I have not caught a piece of kelp or plastic over the intakes when I get an overheat, I had one time at Powell, that there was so much fine debris in the water, (up San Juan arm), that I had an overheat alarm. I stopped, backed down, and then shut down, and cleaned off the intake--resolved the issue--and I turned around and didn't go further into the debris field. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
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Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4420 City/Region: Greenwood
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Could be sensor(s) or a failing thermostat?
How old are the thermostats? _________________ Brent Barrett |
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Ferg
Joined: 18 Jun 2015 Posts: 187 City/Region: Oak Island
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Dr. Bob, there was no debris and the intake was clear, that's why I'm thinking it's a questionable sensor.
Brent, the stats have less than 20 hours on them, and I think that if they would have failed, it would be at high RPM |
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BrentB
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks
Can the OB be connected to computer diagnostic software?
Yamaha has one called YDS |
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Ferg
Joined: 18 Jun 2015 Posts: 187 City/Region: Oak Island
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:28 am Post subject: |
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It does have a diagnostic port. That's my next step, but I don't know if the history will show these two events. We'll see |
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South of Heaven
Joined: 15 Aug 2015 Posts: 1459 City/Region: Sharon
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Are you sure its an overheat warning? My old Suzuki once had an alarm go off and I couldn't figure it out. Then i came to find out it was a reminder for the oil change. The previous owner must have set it to go off at a certain time interval.
Do you have a battery operated temp gun? If you're absolutely sure it's an overheat alarm then I would take off the cowling immediately after it happens again and get different readings from different parts of the block (assuming theres no plastic there). Those guns are very accurate. I bought one and use it on my volvo engine in my new boat. _________________ <><><> Jason <><><>
2005 Silverton 35 Motoryacht (Twin 385 Crusaders) (SOLD 6/20)
2000 Camano 31 Troll (Volvo TAMD41p) (SOLD 2/19)
2007 C Dory 25' Cruiser (200 hp Suzuki, sold 7/17)
2003 C Dory 19' Angler (80 hp Yamaha, sold 7/16)
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Ferg
Joined: 18 Jun 2015 Posts: 187 City/Region: Oak Island
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:26 am Post subject: |
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It's defiantly an overheating alarm, but as I mentioned in my initial post, it only happens when I suddenly reduce the RPMs. I shut down the engine and immediately restart with no problem and no alarm. If was truly overheating, it would go back into alarm I think |
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Jack in Alaska
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:58 am Post subject: over heating??? |
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My 2003 200 hp Honda did the same thing 3 yrs ago. After much typing and a-s scratching it turned out to be the thermostats.
Has not done it for 3 yrs now. _________________ On the HIGH TIDE-II, wife Carolyn and I.....Another summer fishing on the HIGH TIDE II in the Cook Inlet at Cape Ninilchik, Alaska.
HIGH TIDE-II; 2005 26' ProAngler; 2003 200 Honda / 2009 9.9 Honda high thrust
No. CD026021I405; AK-5008-AK
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HIGH TIDE; 1983 Angler Classic 22'; 90 Honda/ 9.9 Tohatsu-sold 2009 to son Dan (flatfishfool)
Stolen & stripped in Aug. 18
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