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Peter & Judy
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johnr
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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"The company, Cooke Aquaculture, blamed "exceptionally high tides and currents coinciding with this week's solar eclipse" for the failure of the net pen near Cypress Island."
At Cypress Island there are plenty of tides as high, or higher, than the one experienced during the solar eclipse..pretty much every new moon, every 28 days in fact. I think the company is trying to pull one over on the public. |
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hardee
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I just saw this on the news this morning. AND, there is a meeting in Sequim about the possibility of an open pen fish farm in the Port Angeles area, inside the bay or outside, either place, (IMHO), BAD idea. Meeting is coming up on the 29th.
Harvey
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chromer
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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johnr wrote: | "The company, Cooke Aquaculture, blamed "exceptionally high tides and currents coinciding with this week's solar eclipse" for the failure of the net pen near Cypress Island." |
Maybe they just wanted some insurance money to rebuild their farm operation. Remember during Depression how resort lodges were always mysteriously burning down? _________________
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hardee
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Good time to go fishing. NO limit on the Atlantic Salmon now.
Harvey
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starcrafttom
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Should be good fishing. These fish are sterile and pose no threat to local population once they have been released. That is why they farm Atlantic salmon in the pacific. And before some tells me they have been seen making reed beds in stream, that does not mean they are able to breed. Its like when you buy a girl a drink, it dont mean your getting laid. _________________ Thomas J Elliott
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Pacificcoast101
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AstoriaDave
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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johnr wrote: | "The company, Cooke Aquaculture, blamed "exceptionally high tides and currents coinciding with this week's solar eclipse" for the failure of the net pen near Cypress Island."
At Cypress Island there are plenty of tides as high, or higher, than the one experienced during the solar eclipse..pretty much every new moon, every 28 days in fact. I think the company is trying to pull one over on the public. |
Agree 100%. Not an especially high tide. _________________ Dave Kruger
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localboy
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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starcrafttom wrote: | These fish are sterile and pose no threat to local population once they have been released.... And before some tells me they have been seen making reed beds in stream, that does not mean they are able to breed. |
Not so fast...Uh,uh. No!! Nice try. I saw "Jurassic Park". Nature finds a way...😉JK _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
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journey on
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Starcraftcom,
Why would they be sterile? In the book I read about Atlantic salmon farming there was no mention that they were sterile. How do they sterilize them? The book was written by an author who was paid by the industry to extol the virtues of farmed salmon and sterility would have been a plus.
If I remember, Billy Proctor has a different view, in that the farmed salmon can interbreed with the Pacific salmon. He's the guy in BC who's co-authored a book on his life in the Broughtons, BC and his effort to protect the native salmon.
The operators in BC were Norwegian, with Chilean workers.
Were there changes in the last 5 years?
Boris
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starcrafttom
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Like you I saw a show about them and they stated several times that they are not breeder. That way their is not chance of them colonizing the river.
from a 2 second search-ABSTRACT: Genetic interaction between farmed escapees and wild conspecifics represents one
of the major environmental challenges faced by the Atlantic salmon aquaculture industry. In order
to mitigate genetic interactions, triploid (sterile) farmed fish can be produced.
more reading here |
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starcrafttom
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Mark, dont make me find you... shit sturing again... |
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hardee
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:42 am Post subject: |
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journey on wrote: | Starcraftcom,
Why would they be sterile? In the book I read about Atlantic salmon farming there was no mention that they were sterile. How do they sterilize them? The book was written by an author who was paid by the industry to extol the virtues of farmed salmon and sterility would have been a plus.
The operators in BC were Norwegian, with Chilean workers.
Were there changes in the last 5 years?
Boris |
Agree, Open pen farming in BC waters has done nothing but hurt the wild salmon environment, and the wild salmon population there. Don't know if the fish are sterile, but their affect, detrimental, (the open pen farms) is measurable up there. Why are we letting them into US waters?
Pen farms produce increase in infestations of sea lice, and the wild salmon fry pick up the lice during their migration out to sea.
Billy Proctor and Alexandra Morton would agree. Both are experienced with salmon preservation.
And the tides, Nice try but not proven by records.
Harvey
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localboy
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | In the book I read about Atlantic salmon farming there was no mention that they were sterile. How do they sterilize them? |
So, first the salmon wives nag and nag and nag, telling the male husband salmon how it's so much an easier "procedure" for them...the male salmon get so tired of the nagging they find a really, really good salmon urologist with really, really teeny, tiny instruments...then the male salmon sit around with bags of frozen peas on themselves...
I kid of course. Farmed salmon tastes like crap. My brother in Hawai'i thinks it's delish. So did I when I lived there,because you can't get anything else. Once I moved up here, that crap never entered our house again. |
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localboy
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:39 am Post subject: |
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starcrafttom wrote: | Mark, dont make me find you... shit sturing again... |
Too late... |
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