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If purchasing today, what type of prop would you buy? |
Aluminum - 3 Blade |
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38% |
[ 33 ] |
Aluminum - 4 Blade |
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17% |
[ 15 ] |
Composite - 3 Blade |
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2% |
[ 2 ] |
Composite - 4 Blade |
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24% |
[ 21 ] |
Stainless - 3 Blade |
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10% |
[ 9 ] |
Stainless - 4 Blade |
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6% |
[ 6 ] |
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Total Votes : 86 |
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Da Nag
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2828 City/Region: Port Angeles
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1995
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Vessel Name: Wilbur
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:36 am Post subject: Prop Choice |
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There's been a bit of lively discussion on props lately - Swee Pea (John) suggested a poll. A fine idea.
So - if purchasing today, what would be your prop of choice?
No way we can list all the possible brands, let's just go with material and blades. _________________ Will, C-Brat Nerd |
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AK Angler
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 327 City/Region: South Central
State or Province: AK
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C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Rod Holder
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:50 am Post subject: |
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I would have to say I would buy any of the above if the price was right. I'm always looking for a bargain. But for the purposes of this poll, I think a 3-blade stainless would be my screw of choice. At least unless somebody can convince me otherwise... _________________ -Rod
89CD16A- The Navicula has been sold... |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:44 am Post subject: |
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The three blade aluminum "chopper" (cut off square at the back of the blade) prop that came with my new motor (Yamaha) seems very hard to beat for versatility. I've got four blade Solas that I think will be a little less vibration at low speeds, but no miracle breakthrough (but we'll just have to wait and see).
Despite all the advantages of stainless, the big turn off for me is the weight (really the mass) of the prop when engaging the gears. A 3.5 lb aluminum prop is a lot easier on the shift dogs than the 11-13 lb stainless prop. Just from the sound of the two, I'd say the impact on the sift dogs (CCClllluuuuunnnkkkk!!!!!) is proportional to the mass of the props. (Not too surprising a conclusion!)
Maybe not a big deal if you only shift occasionally to get in and out of marinas, but I still don't like the heavy clunking and thuds, and definitely wouldn't want to use a stainless prop on a workboat pushing things around and shifting in and out of gears all day long.
The shift dog design is not very sophisticated and is totally without a clutch, torque converter, or synchromesh servos, and is a real basic crude mechanical device: it's in gear or out of gear with these flattish, slotted faced bronze engagement clogs. It's kind of like shifting a car with a stick shift without a clutch from a standing start. No need to make the start up mass any larger than necessary with a triple weight prop.
Considering the design limitations, it's no wonder that they encourage you to shift into gear fairly quickly from neutral to avoid grinding the dogs for an unnecessarily long period. You do, however, want to wait for the prop to stop turning in neutral before going from forward to reverse or vis-a'-verse.
Another advantage of aluminum props:
minor damage---repair it yourself with leather mallet, file, sandpaper and new paint.
major damage---have it repaired, or simply buy a new one at the discount internet or ebay rate for the same amount of money. I can get the Yamaha factory aluminum prop mentioned above for $55-$65 if thoughtfully done, and the full repair of an aluminum prop that requires welding is $75 or more. My 2 pesos. Joe _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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catdogcat
Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 175 City/Region: Soldotna
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Vessel Name: Plankton
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Well I voted for the 3 blade aluminum mostly because I know mine works well. I would love to try out one of the composite props. One of those may have saved me a prop shaft replacement. My only fear is that if I hit something that would normally ding my alum prop, would probably destroy the "plastic" prop. Please correct me if I'm wrong as I am quite ignorant to comp props. How do they handle the occasional "ding"? |
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Sealife
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 301 City/Region: Woodland Hills
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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It's my understanding that they break rather than ding, but that you can just replace a blade using a screwdriver. Another advantage of them is the ability to easily change the pitch using a screwdriver. _________________ Mike - Sealife |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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In the composite props, the ProPulse brand has 4 individually replaceable blades and adjustable pitch. The Comprop is a 4 blaed fixed blade prop molded in one piece. On it, the blades cannot be replced and the whole unit must be renewed. Joe. |
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DodgeRam
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 199 City/Region: Vancouver Isl. CANADA
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well when I will have about 3000 or so hours on this great C-Dory I might be able to let you know what my choice would be . But for know I running 3 blades factory aluminum, next set probably will try Ring Prop if they do work. It will be nice if the don't well, I will sadly be out of about 500 big ones!... Gary |
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tpbrady
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:11 am Post subject: |
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I'm currently running a 4 blade Solas 15 pitch on a 90 ETEC, get 5100 WOT and just shy of 32 mph. Next summer I'm going to try a 4 blade Propulse to see what I get with a 16 pitch composite. I voted for the 4 blade as it seems to generate more thrust when applying the throttle from moderate RPM trying to stay up with a following sea. _________________ Tom
22 Cruiser Bidarka 2004-2009
25 Cruiser Bidarka II 2010-2013
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I voted (now that I'm back ) I'm for the OEM 3-blade as well. Tried a lot of props... what works best in almost all situations is the stock Yamaha props
Hey... how come the stupid spell checker does not know "I'm" .... irritatin can ya smarten-it-up any
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5922 City/Region: Kenmore
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Redƒox wrote: |
Hey... how come the stupid spell checker does not know "I'm" .... irritatin can ya smarten-it-up any
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We all knew you were irritating so the automation wasn't necessary. Oh.... you meant doesn't know the spelling of the word "I'm", sorry. _________________ Roger on Meant to be
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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... daooh ... |
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Bought a propulse prop. Adjusted it to 16" pitch. The first check now shows performance similar to the Honda data. However, this was Labor Day, and anything over 15 knts was asking for trouble. I'll run a curve later.
boris |
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