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Snowday
Joined: 14 Apr 2017 Posts: 23 City/Region: Lake Superior
State or Province: MN
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Foxfire
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:09 pm Post subject: Do you use dual Racor spin on type fuel/ water separator? |
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By dual I mean that if one starts to clog you can switch to the other. Or does anyone use a pressure gauge on the vacuum side of the racor to see if it is clogging?
Next Racor question: my boat came with a PCM R080020 filter element which appears to be a substitute element on a racor body. I can not find these anywhere. Any suggestions for the right filter? I have pictures of it, and dimensions but I do not know how to post a picture on this thread.
The local mechanics are not much help on any of this.
Cheers,
Todd _________________ Todd Miller |
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SEA3PO
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 1835 City/Region: Chester
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SEA3PO
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Just go to West Marine...they carry Racor and also a cheaper brand....you can buy filters online too... what I don't like about them is that they rust on the outside rim...a filter that expensive should not rust.
I use 2 Racor filters...one for each tank...I am trying to keep everything separate as much as I can.
Joel
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SEA3PO
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 1835 City/Region: Chester
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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One of the reasons I have two is not because of clogging but water in the fuel.....the filters are good water separators and it is nice to switch while draining the other...I have purchased fuel with water in it several times ....a pain to deal with...
Joel
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
State or Province: IN
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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On my boat, I use a RACOR S3203 (2 micron) fuel filter and a clear bowl under it for water and debris inspection. I bought several years ago from Bass Pro online for $25 each with free shipping. Depending for boat usage, I change them once or twice a year _________________ Brent Barrett |
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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When last heard of, the C-Dory 25's came with a Honda branded filter inside the aft starboard lazerette. That said, it's a Racor head which takes a Racor S3203 (2 micron) filter element, as mentioned above.
I change my filter element once a year; buying the cheapest Racor offer (with shipping) on the internet. The problem I have is trying to remove the filter element from the sediment bowl. I've started to cut the element away and then remove the black sealing ring from the clear bowl. So far, so good.
Don't forget to change the filters in the motor; fuel injection needs clean fuel. The 150 Honda has 2 filters which I also change once/year.
Boris |
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chimoii
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 271
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2017
C-Dory Model: R-25 Tug
Vessel Name: Chimo
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:10 am Post subject: |
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journey on wrote: | When last heard of, the C-Dory 25's came with a Honda branded filter inside the aft starboard lazerette. That said, it's a Racor head which takes a Racor S3203 (2 micron) filter element, as mentioned above.
I change my filter element once a year; buying the cheapest Racor offer (with shipping) on the internet. The problem I have is trying to remove the filter element from the sediment bowl. I've started to cut the element away and then remove the black sealing ring from the clear bowl. So far, so good.
Don't forget to change the filters in the motor; fuel injection needs clean fuel. The 150 Honda has 2 filters which I also change once/year.
Boris |
Hi Boris, as a removal aid you may want to try my homemade removal "tool" that you can see in my photo album. Just fit the 'tool' in a vice or similar and it will hold the sediment bowl while you use a strap wrench or whatever on the filter. _________________ Chimo: a word of greeting, farewell, and toast before drinking once widely spoken in the Inuktitut language in northern Canada. |
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:19 am Post subject: |
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next time I am lubing thebgasket with Tef Gel paste and see if it helps |
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Two Bears
Joined: 07 Nov 2009 Posts: 296 City/Region: Orofino
State or Province: ID
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Two Bears
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Two Bears came with a Suzki filter which was quite expensive and difficult to find. After fussing about it to a dealer his suggestion was to buy the bigger Sierra filter (made for a large inboard). Then replace it yearly. The filters are inexpensive and designed to remove water as well as other "stuff." I replace it as routine on my winter overhaul and carry a spare. I had fuel filter problems my first two years until I converted. Since then no problems in 800 hours and have never needed the spare (knock on wood!).
Chuck _________________ Chuck & Penny Raddon
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Chester
Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 1176 City/Region: home
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sold to lovely couple
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Ah yes, the ol' welded on sediment bowl.
Last time this happened I put the element and bowl into ice water to get everything good and cold. Then I dipped just the bowl into hot water. Presto! They came right apart. |
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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chimoii, The problem is not how to hold the two parts so you can unwind them. My problem is that the black ring which is swaged onto the bottom of the filter sticks to the sediment bowl and slips around in the filter when I try to unwind the two parts. So far I've had to break the ring out of the sediment bowl.
I notice that you have a green o-ring on your bowl in the picture. Racor said the the green ring cured the sticking, but when I get a filter they all come with a black ring. What P/N did you order?
Chester, Thanks for the tip. I'll use it next year when I change the filter.
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chimoii
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 271
State or Province: BC
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C-Dory Model: R-25 Tug
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:38 am Post subject: |
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journey on wrote: | chimoii, The problem is not how to hold the two parts so you can unwind them. My problem is that the black ring which is swaged onto the bottom of the filter sticks to the sediment bowl and slips around in the filter when I try to unwind the two parts. So far I've had to break the ring out of the sediment bowl.
I notice that you have a green o-ring on your bowl in the picture. Racor said the the green ring cured the sticking, but when I get a filter they all come with a black ring. What P/N did you order?
Chester, Thanks for the tip. I'll use it next year when I change the filter.
Boris |
My apologies but I just bought the replacement filters at Sherwood Marine in Saanich. Don't know the part number. |
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SeaSpray
Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 1007 City/Region: Brentwood, CA
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C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Just another way to deal with the sticking bowl. I drill a small hole through the filter and the black ring and put a screw in the hole. This keeps the black ring from turning while removing the bowl. I do have to use strap wrenches or large pliers to turn the parts. |
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Snowday
Joined: 14 Apr 2017 Posts: 23 City/Region: Lake Superior
State or Province: MN
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Foxfire
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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journey on wrote: | When last heard of, the C-Dory 25's came with a Honda branded filter inside the aft starboard lazerette. That said, it's a Racor head which takes a Racor S3203 (2 micron) filter element, as mentioned above.
I change my filter element once a year; buying the cheapest Racor offer (with shipping) on the internet. The problem I have is trying to remove the filter element from the sediment bowl. I've started to cut the element away and then remove the black sealing ring from the clear bowl. So far, so good.
Don't forget to change the filters in the motor; fuel injection needs clean fuel. The 150 Honda has 2 filters which I also change once/year.
Boris |
Hey Boris, that filter is a special order. Is there anything more common? Thanks, Todd |
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
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