mounting Scotty 2500 prawn /crab trap puller on a 22 cruise

PvL

I am buying a Scotty 2500 prawn /crab trap puller and would appreciate pictures and/or mounting information for a 22 cruiser. I currently use Scotty manual down riggers with the slide in mount for 1050 and 1060 down riggers.

Thanks in advance

hardee · Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:10 pm Post subject:

PvL, Hey it is good to see you on the site. And to see the (JC) Lately here. I'm the neighbor across the street from Paul. Looks like you are treating that boat well, and putting it to good use. Sorry, I can't help with your question, not fishing or crabbing on my boat.

Harvey
SleepyC Moon

PvL

Good to hear from you Harvey. Last time we crossed paths was at the Powell River gathering a few years back. We try to keep (JC) Lately the way Paul and Verna would have wanted. We sure remember your help when we bought our 22.

starcrafttom · Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:19 pm Post subject:

Well you have two choices and neither is good. The slide in mount will not work with any of the current products. So your choice is a separate mount for the Puller or New down riggers. Which ever you do Use a backing plate, stainless steel hardware and back fill your hole then redrill them. That means drill the holes for the mount. Remove the wood between the fiberglass at least a 1/2 inch. tape the bottom and fil with epoxy. Then redrill you holes to the bolt size. This will strengthen the mount and stop any water from entering the wood core. I like to use starboard as the backing because it does not compress or rot. easy to cut to size. Hope that helps.

starcrafttom · Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:22 pm Post subject:

Oh and if you have not bought that puller yet I would not. Its shit. I used one once and it was almost useless. That was the first year they can out so maybe they got better. My pots are minimum 40 lbs because of the current in the sound and the San Juan's.

davidJ · Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:57 am Post subject:

If you are going to be shrimping, I think Starcraft Tom is probably right. I usually shrimp at 200 to 350 feet deep with 400 ft. of line in the San Juans, and you better have a heavy pot and a heavy-duty puller. If your handy you can build your own puller using a wheelchair motor and rent a hydraulic pipe bender to make a davit to go with it for a bit less $. There are instructions on page 4 of the All C-Dorys all the time section of this forum, and pics. in my album. good luck.

T.R. Bauer · Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:55 am Post subject:

The puller might be fine for his use. It's hard to say since he didn't elaborate. A lot of people tried to steer me away from an Ace line hauler and I have used it hard for years. It is still holding up fine and going strong. The scotty one might be ok too depending on what you're doing.

kaelc · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:00 am Post subject:

I have an aluminum bracket that was fabricated up on my boat mounted on the gunnel with four bolts. Happy to send you a picture if you if PM me your cell.

starcrafttom · Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:47 am Post subject:

T.R. I have the ACE line puller . My second one and would recommend it over the scotty. My old one is for sale to who ever wants it. works great but just decided to up grade to the hands free option.

PvL

Thanks everyone for the input. It is appreciated.

I will stay with the Scotty line puller for a number of reasons:

1. recommendations from fellow boat owners in our marina

2. small size and ease of storage

3. deal I am getting from a fellow C-Brat

The Ace puller is certainly good. I have used one on my friend's 21 foot Ranger Tug many times.

Below is some information I received from Scotty Customer Service.

smckean (Tosca) · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:28 pm Post subject:

I just read the following in Scotty's 2500 product description:

"Its high torque 12V motor pulls 1 crab trap and up to 4 prawn traps with ease."

Clearly Scotty doesn't understand shrimping in the PNW. That 1 crab trap pull is the same load as 4 shrimp traps is nuts. The "prawns" they are thinking of are certainly not the spot shrimp we fish for in Washington state or in BC.

johnr · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:56 pm Post subject:

I have the 2500 and it's great for pulling crab traps. It's ok for shrimp pots, not ideal, but way, way, way better than not having a puller at all. I'm still pretty strong and my son is stronger, so that may be a factor as well. You have to help the 2500 with some muscle if you're using it for shrimp pots.

starcrafttom · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:42 pm Post subject:

smckean (Tosca) · Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:00 pm Post subject:

Very interesting Tom.....I learned something.

Frankly, it's hard for me to imagine shrimping without current since current has always been the #1 factor I deal with (and screw up over Wink

).

You'd be just the guy to likely know the answer to this question....I've always thought that shrimp prefer to live in areas with heavy current flows. I assumed that they hide under ledges or in cracks on the bottom until near slack, and then they come out to feed on whatever the previous current just brought in. This must be a mistaken assumption on my part if shrimp live happily in low current bays and inlets. Do shrimp really care about current?

NewMoon · Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:12 am Post subject:

In our primary cruising areas of BC and SEAK, the best shrimping locations we've found are tucked away from big open water, where there is some current but not a great deal, and not so many predators. We weight lightweight stackable pots with 12lb of lead. Staying in WA waters in 2020, our setup worked well in Dabob Bay, but we got surprised and lost two pots in the San Juans, not realizing how strong the current was going to be.

As non-residents who can't string a bunch of pots on one line, the Scotty puller works for us. On our NT it's conveniently stowable, and swappable with Scotty downriggers.

We use this skinny line - works great and 400 feet stows in a small tub:

https://www.go2marine.com/Round-Braid-Nylon-Twine-1-lb.-5-lb-Rolls?quantity=1&color=338&size=738&weight=58