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MikeR
Joined: 21 Apr 2013 Posts: 474 City/Region: Mill Creek
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2016
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: MikeR
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Brock, congratulations, by the smile on your face it looks like the long wait was worth it! It was great to see you at James island on Saturday...I'll get some of those running shots added soon...the boat looks great! Enjoy your maiden voyage and cruise north!
-Mike _________________ 22' C-Dory Cruiser (2016)
16' C-Dory Angler (1989)
10' C-Dory Row Boat (1995) |
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1521 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
Photos: W B Nod
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Pat Anderson wrote: | Now Brock COULD go fast if he wanted to, but my money is down on his going the same old usual Catman very comfortable cruising speed! What he has now is a bit more room and better sleeping arrangement (you had to have seen how he slept on Bambina to understand this!). |
On speed, why is it most people know, almost exactly, how fast their boat goes
at WOT and when asked how fast their automobile goes, they probably say,
"I have no idea"?
Aye. _________________ "I don't want any cake" - said no one ever.
If someone tells you they don't eat cake, unfriend them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life. |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Foggy wrote: | Pat Anderson wrote: | Now Brock COULD go fast if he wanted to, but my money is down on his going the same old usual Catman very comfortable cruising speed! What he has now is a bit more room and better sleeping arrangement (you had to have seen how he slept on Bambina to understand this!). |
On speed, why is it most people know, almost exactly, how fast their boat goes
at WOT and when asked how fast their automobile goes, they probably say,
"I have no idea"?
Aye. |
Speed limits.
Foggy, Most of us drive where there are speed limits on the roads. Probably most of us also run our boats where there is no speed limit on the water.
Harvey
SleepyC
_________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep.
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3374 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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hardee wrote: |
Foggy, Most of us drive where there are speed limits on the roads. Probably most of us also run our boats where there is no speed limit on the water.
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Most of us also have boats that only go 20-40 mph tops. This is well within the driving capability of the average operator, so you can go to the limit and be comfortable driving it there.
Even if you weren't limited by speed limits, traffic, obstacles, etc., the average car will go quite a bit faster than most people can handle it. So even if you had the opportunity (say at a track or a straight road in the middle of nowhere), you're more likely to scare yourself into quitting the attempt (or lose control) before you actually find out the top speed of your car.
The average car can also go faster than it's ability to stay in the road, although a similar thing can happen to a lot of boats.
To go 100mph in a boat takes a special design and/or lots and lots of HP. Pretty much any car can do it on about 90 hp. |
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MikeR
Joined: 21 Apr 2013 Posts: 474 City/Region: Mill Creek
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2016
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: MikeR
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Pat Anderson wrote: | Now Brock COULD go fast if he wanted to, but my money is down on his going the same old usual Catman very comfortable cruising speed! What he has now is a bit more room and better sleeping arrangement (you had to have seen how he slept on Bambina to understand this!). |
Perhaps with the new boat comes a new Catman. Here's a photo from Saturday of Brock racing a Washington State Ferry with his new Honda 150! And another of Brock and his buddy Mark at James Island, early in their shakedown cruise on Saturday. More photos in my album
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1521 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
Photos: W B Nod
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:18 am Post subject: |
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On speed, my question concerns the 'knowledge', or lack of knowing, the WOT
speed of your boat but not your land based vehicle as opposed to the 'practice'
of obeying speed limits, where to put the hammer down, etc.
I do have acquaintances (non boaters, please forgive me...) who do know the top
speed of their road machines and which one would get the prize whether on 2, 3,
4 or more tires.
Just finding this curious.
Aye.
Einstein said, "Speed changes things."
Grandpa said, "First control then speed." |
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Robbi
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 1193 City/Region: Chambers Bay
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2023
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Photos: C-Run
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Brock, Congratulation! I don't think that I have ever met a boater who values the journey as much as you do. Journey on!
Looking forward to seeing you on the water.
Robbi _________________ 2023 C-Dory 23 Venture Sport
2003 C-Dory 19
sold 2019
2004 C-Dory 16 Cruiser
Sold 8/2015
2004 C-Dory 19 "C-Run"
Sold 8/2011
1989 C-Dory 16 Angler
Sold 2010 |
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Larry H
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2041 City/Region: Tulalip,
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1991
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: Nancy H
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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To determine if the prop is correct, a boat needs to be run up to wide open throttle and the RPMs noted. If the prop is correct, the motor will reach the wide open throttle range specified by the manufacturer.
It's easy enough to also note the top speed.
None of that is needed for cars as the 'gearing' is fixed by the manufacturer. _________________ Larry H
A C-Brat since Nov 1, 2003
Ranger Tug 27 ex 'Jacari Maru' 2017 - 2022
Puget Trawler 37 ex 'Jacari Maru' 2006-2017
1991 22' Cruiser, 'Nancy H'--1991-2006 |
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Bess-C
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 459 City/Region: Anacortes
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Bess-C
Photos: Bess-C
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Brock,
Congratulations on your new 23, it's beautiful. I look forward to seeing you on the water.
Lyle _________________ Bess-C 25 C-Dory sold 6/09
Bessie 46 Westcoast 6/09
Baby Dory 14 C-Dory 3/11
17 Center Console C-Dory 10/16 |
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5922 City/Region: Kenmore
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Meant to be
Photos: SeaDNA
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Brock,
Congrats on the new (much larger) boat. I'm guessing you already have a name for it but if not, I thought "Catman Deux" would be a good choice. _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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My IRA
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 233 City/Region: Springfield
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2013
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Aidiam
Photos: My IRA
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Although we've never met, I do know the 23 Venture well. You've purchased a great boat, so congratulations. _________________ Jerry and Helen
1984 Arima Explorer sold 1985
1985 Arima 17 SR sold 1992
1992 C-Dory 22 Cruiser sold 8/96
1992 OLympic 26XLF Sold 10/2000
1989 Arima 19 SR sold 2003
2004 C-Dory 25 sold 10/05
1992 Bounty 25 Offshore Pilot sold 6/2010
2006 Arima 17 SC sold 9/2012
2013 C-Dory 23 Venture |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8553 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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My IRA wrote: | Although we've never met, I do know the 23 Venture well. You've purchased a great boat, so congratulations. |
If you ever do meet Brock, you are in for a treat! Catman is the real deal! And it really IS true, Brock is all about the journey, not the destination! _________________
DAYDREAM - CD25 Cruiser
CRABBY LOU - CD16 Angler (sold 2020)
Pat & Patty Anderson, C-Brat #62!
http://daydreamsloop.blogspot.com
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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rogerbum wrote: | Brock,
Congrats on the new (much larger) boat. I'm guessing you already have a name for it but if not, I thought "Catman Deux" would be a good choice. |
Good on Roger. I like that, and I bet Brock will too, but obviously, he will name his boat.
Brock, Again, congrats, and enjoy the journey. I know you are out on the water, so hope we meet up somewhere along the way.
Harvey
SleepyC
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Catman
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 1526 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2017
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Songbird (Bambina, 16')
Photos: Bambina
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Wow, you guys, I'm just overwhelmed by the kind comments written about my new boat. And about me. You know the movie "It's a Wonderful Life"? Yeah, the one we've seen every Christmas for a half-century. Well, besides the scene where Jimmy Stewart's on the phone at Donna Reed's house, and Stewart and Reed realize they rather like one another--much to mom's displeasure--this group's support reminds me of my other favorite scene at the end when the whole town showed up to offer friendship and support and money and everybody lived happily ever after.
Corny and long-winded, nevertheless, that scene came to mind when MikeR told me last weekend that Joe started a thread about my new boat. Joe and Ruth, Al and Karen, how nice of you to come to Twin Bridges and offer support the morning I launched. It was so special to see the four of you together, and to go aboard and hear your comments and suggestions. But to take the time to come see me that morning was a gift I'll long remember.
And Peter, thank you for capturing Inaugural Splashdown with those really cool series of photos. It was so nice of you to see me off the way you did. But to wait all week at the dock for my return, now that's a friendship money can't buy.
SoBelle, she does kinda look like a 16' in some photos. I think that's one of the things that attracted me to this boat. She's like Bambina on steroids. And Pat coyly let the cat out of the (sleeping) bag when he inferred my previous sleeping arrangements were less than 5-Star accommodations. In this boat my feet don't stick out the cuddy entrance and rest on a container. There's just a bunch o' room everywhere, and now I see what I've been missing. My gawd, a refrigerator! A table to sit, write and eat on. And a Wallas Nordic Dt. What a little sweetheart that is. And overhead lights that don't draw much power. Heat, sink/water, a door, oodles of storage, a dinghy on top, and I've just left the 80's and walked into 2017.
Roger, dam, that is a good name. Catman Deux. That really is clever. MikeR, thanks again for taking the time to post those photos. I spend minutes staring at them and thinking about the circumstances. The week in the San Juans with my high school buddy Mark was just so much fun. The two 60 year-olds were tons more comfortable than on big-hearted Bambina. With 150 H.P. on a boat built to get after it, I do want to say I wasn't quite racing that ferry. Really, officer. That photo was taken at or near full speed during that phase of the break-in, and I spotted some softer water. The ferry headed north to Upright Head as I veered south.
The boat is an absolute joy to pilot. It lifts off from an easy and comfortable 7.5 knots, 2,000 RPM, to 4,000 in seconds. That yields 19-22 MPH depending on tide, and it'll run comfortably at 25 mph, though I still need to slow for inhospitable wakes and waves. I ran 158 miles on 19.5 engine hours, burned about 43 gallons, for about 3.6 MPG. That was a mixture of speeds, with and against some strong minus tides. I could get just 5,100 RPM tops, the low end of the 5-6,000 range. I'm propped at 14.5x19, top speed 35 MPH.
That little jingle means not that I'm getting my wings, but that my 15 minutes of fame is complete. Again, everyone, thanks for your supportive comments, and I look forward to seeing many of you this summer.
Brock |
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jennykatz
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 1678 City/Region: naples
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Little Treasurer
Photos: Jennykatz
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:19 am Post subject: cc23 |
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We have hull number 3 of Cape Cruiser Venture .What a Great boat . You might want to change that prop to a 15 by 17 pitch would bring your motor up to 5500 rpm and maybe give you more grunt out of the hole and probably the same top speed
We have the Merc 115 CT with a 15 by 17 pitch we get a little over 4 smpg and about 32mph on smooth water .
Good Luck with your Venture Jim _________________ retired 8/08 from UAL, still working pt tm
Duck c-22 cruiser sold 6/23/08
06 Venture Cruiser with merc115CT
00 cd16 cruiser honda 40 sold 3/12 |
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