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Rooster 27509
Joined: 09 Nov 2003 Posts: 50
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Catch-22
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:20 pm Post subject: Yamaha gear box oil ??? |
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Someone must know and it sure isn't me.
Can something other than the ($) Yamaha gear oil be used for the twin 40s on the Catch 22? I don't won't to do any damage but would like to pay lese than $25.00 per gal too. While I'm looking what about the engine oil filters anything less expensave that anyone has been using?
Jim from the Catch 22 |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Jim- The only ratings for the current lubricants sold for most lower unit applications are API MT-1 and GL-5, with the exception of some special synthetic (silicone based) ones for extreme high -performance (racing) uses and some formulated for the older OMC electric shift gear cases, according to a product availability survey I'm making for you through several catalogues.
Most manufactures market their own brands of lubricants and other service products to profit from this high gain market. Unless someone tells you different with comensurate authority and the accompanyng reasoning, I would think it would be smart to go ahead and find something more reasonably priced.
Most gear lube is priced at either $4 or $5 for a 10 oz tube (convenient for filling from the bottom of the gearcase), which works out to $51.20 or $64 per gallon, respectively(!!!) For about a dollar more than the 10 oz tube, they'll sell you a quart bottle instead, hense your $25 a gallon figure.
One might be tempted to use lubricants intended for cars. I doubt, however, that regular 90 wt hypoid oil for automobile rear ends has the additives for marine use.
A less expensive alternative to you, since you live in Antioch, Ca., would be to drive to the Bargain Barn in the rear of the West Marine Store in Oakland. They have 10 oz tubes of Lubrimatic Lower Unit Gear Lube marked $1.59 each that were sold to me for $0.77 each (marked down at the cash register as "distressed" if you humor the friendly clerk), which gives you a final price of $9.86 per gallon. Hope this helps. Joe _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Jim- Another thought I left out : Check your gearcase capacities. They use very little fluid. My 15 h.p Johnson kicker uses 8.8 oz. and the 90 h.p. main only 28 oz. Not a lot. Certainly not measured in "gallonage". Joe |
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Rooster 27509
Joined: 09 Nov 2003 Posts: 50
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Catch-22
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Sea Wolf wrote: | Jim- Another thought I left out : Check your gearcase capacities. They use very little fluid. My 15 h.p Johnson kicker uses 8.8 oz. and the 90 h.p. main only 28 oz. Not a lot. Certainly not measured in "gallonage". Joe |
Yes it takes just over 15 oz. per unit for the change out, good point.
It's about time I made a trip to the Bargin Barn you never know what you will come home with and it looks like rain is coming, what a great opportunity.
Jim |
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Redƒox Guest
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 12:38 pm Post subject: oil filter |
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I have been using the Fram TG- 6607 for years now, on my 2000 F-115 Yami. It was strictly a size match I did myself at Wallmart one day. I was not going to give the dealer 10$ apiece for the OEM ones!
If Da-Nag copied the info over to here, in the Library section of this site, there is a thread called non-OEM parts.... or Sumpin like that! lot's of good info there to!
Joe I see your still "at it" hehehehee good come back there. Too bad it's not in the "Library section on site though |
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RickC1435
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 1 City/Region: Central Florida
State or Province: FL
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: Yamaha gear box oil ??? |
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Rooster 27509 wrote: | Someone must know and it sure isn't me.
Can something other than the ($) Yamaha gear oil be used for the twin 40s on the Catch 22? I don't won't to do any damage but would like to pay lese than $25.00 per gal too. While I'm looking what about the engine oil filters anything less expensave that anyone has been using?
Jim from the Catch 22 | [color=green][/color
Re-Gear Lube
Have a 2001 50HP Four/Stroke Yamaha. Been using Amsoil SAE 80w90
Synthetic Lower Unit Oil Gear Lube for over 2 years. (GL-4).
8 oz. tube $4.10. www.lubedealer.com/clark _________________ RickC |
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Les Lampman Dealer
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 779 City/Region: Whidbey Island
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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This is certainly one of those threads that gives me a chuckle now and again...and I certainly *DON'T* mean that in an offensive way .
You spend somewhere between $9,000 and $18,000 (more or less) these days for a good set of twins or a good sized single engine...and then up comes a discussion of how to save a small fraction of a very small percentage of the value of the engines on maintenance items. You gotta be kidding!
Greg, it'd take you 5 years to go through a $100 worth of OEM filters if you changed them twice a year! I can burn up more fuel than that in a weekend.
I'm not suggesting that OEM products are the only way to fly; shoot, there are lots of good reasons for using other products that may be easier to find or just flat better stuff...but c'mon...to save money? _________________ Les
www.marinautboats.com |
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Redƒox Guest
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:03 pm Post subject: ARG :D |
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Well it's the principal of the thing I guess. I actually go through about 7 oil filters a year! I'm one to change often. I say a dollar saved is a dollar earned. Gotta try offset the cost of boating somewhere and show them gouging dealers to! lol |
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Les Lampman Dealer
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 779 City/Region: Whidbey Island
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:09 am Post subject: |
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SEVEN A YEAR?!?!?
Where do I sign up to be your supplier? |
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