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JamesTXSD



Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 7445
City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
State or Province: AZ
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: "Wild Blue" (sold 9/14)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Harvey,

As I mentioned, all of our boats have had bottom paint. All the trailers have been bunks, not rollers. My experience has been that the bunks have been fine with a bottom painted boat. When we ordered our C-Dory, the King trailer came with the bunk slicks. Love those! I tried to find the slicks that King uses to put on our current trailer, but no joy.

These are what I came up with, from Overtons:

http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Overtons-Trailer-Bunk-Glide-On-Kit&i=714761

Easy install. Brand new bottom paint, and not a speck of it showing on the bunks.



For the record, the King bunk slicks are more substantial, but these seem to serve the same purpose.

Jim
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Casey



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
Posts: 1094
City/Region: The Villages(FL)
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: "Dessert 1st"
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've had "hard" bottom paint with multiple coats of barrier coat epoxy (first) on both Naknek and Dessert 1st. I prefer the non-ablative bottom paint. They seem more durable, better for trailering, and don't rub off if you're snorkeling and rub against the hull.

I had the barrier coats and bottom paint done at a (former) Cape Cruiser dealership in Crystal River (FL). The bottom paint was redone after five years.
The dealer recommended doing the barrier coat in a different color than the bottom paint, so you could see when the outer coat was getting thinner and needed to be redone. Sounded like a good idea, but since I wasn't present when they did the original job, I'm not really sure what is actually under the bottom paint.

If you're thinking of having bottom paint for the first time I recommend spending the extra money an having a good barrier coat of expoxy applied first. If you omit the barrier coat, doing it later (after the bottom paint is applied) isn't really an option.

Best,
Casey&Mary

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journey on



Joined: 03 Mar 2005
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City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the question of painting a C-Dory bottom is a familiar one and I've taken the liberty to make a compendium of the subject. Here it is. There are questions answered that haven't been asked. Note that things haven't changed much.

The C-Brats :: - Bottom Paint
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=15278
The C-Brats :: - Bottom Paint Questions
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=15240
The C-Brats :: - bottom paint
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=14943
The C-Brats :: - Any Tomcat owners using ablative paint?
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=14818
The C-Brats :: - Another Bottom Paint Question!!!
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=14795
The C-Brats :: - Pettit Bottom Paint
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=14735
The C-Brats :: - Alternative to Bottom Paint
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=14725
The C-Brats :: - Bottom Paint .....Paint Line
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=14706
The C-Brats :: - Bottom Paint Shelf Life
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=14613
The C-Brats :: - Freshwater Bottom Paint
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=13788
The C-Brats :: - How Much Bottom Paint
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=13312
The C-Brats :: - Bottom paint
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=8141
The C-Brats :: - bottom paint
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=13125
The C-Brats :: - How long with no bottom paint
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=11275
The C-Brats :: - Bottom Painting on the trailer
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=12557
The C-Brats :: - Epoxy barrier coats?
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=12427
The C-Brats :: - Removing bottom paint
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=11858
The C-Brats :: - painting the bottom
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=11137
The C-Brats :: - Bottom paint, the good and the bad
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=11131
The C-Brats :: - barnacle scum - bottom paint or treatment?
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=11001
The C-Brats :: - Bottom Paint - TC255
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=7112
The C-Brats :: - Painting outboard drives and I/O drive units.
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=9813

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hardee



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boris, That is going to take me all day to read Rolling Eyes Wink Laughing
and then I should know everything about bottom paint. Shocked Cool Wink
except Question Embarassed Question
if I am going to do it Laughing Laughing Laughing

Thank you for your effort. I will suck it up and read the works. There is a lot of knowledge in this group, and you just put that into the proverbial nutshell.

Thanks again.

Harvey
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journey on



Joined: 03 Mar 2005
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City/Region: Valley Centre
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C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
Photos: Journey On
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Harvey, my intent wasn't to make you read it all, but to show that a lot of C-Dory owners have asked about bottom paint and the answers are still the same. Just read a couple; if the titles attract you, go there.

The final answer is always up to you, it's your boat.

Boris
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boris, I know you had great intentions, and I thank you for that. I have looked at some of those threads already, some more than once. One of my favorite answers was Bill from Noro Lim:

Quote:
" Our first boat was a 16. My wife and I were still both working full time. We kept the boat on a trailer and under cover when not in use. We used the boat quite a bit, but mostly on weekends. Our longest trips were 3 or 4 days and a hundred or so miles on the water. Clean up after each use was pretty easy. Bottom paint would have been an unnecessary hassle. Easy choice.

Our second boat was a 23. We were both retired. We kept the boat in the water in a covered marina slip. Getting under way was a matter of minutes whenever the mood struck us, which was often. We used the boat a lot. I would bet the boat got used on average pretty close to once a week year round for eight years. Our longest trips were a month or two and a couple thousand miles on the water. We hauled out two or three times a year for inspections and cleanup. We re-applied bottom paint every two to three years. Not having bottom paint would have been a disaster. Easy choice.
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Looks like it depends, on how you use the boat, and how you take care of it, and how much time you want to spend doing the "taking care of"

Thanks again. I'm off to do some reading. Cool

Harvey
SleepyC Moon

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