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ddenver



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:59 pm    Post subject: Nice write-up Harvey! Reply with quote

Thanks for the trip overview Harvey. I really enjoyed reading it.

Great to see you taking advantage of retirement sir!

Looking forward to seeing you at the SBS CBGT!

Take care,
Dan, Tanya, and Hannah on Echo
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvey, enjoyed reading this back in Sept. and it was well worth a second read now! We would all become better boaters if we made these "do again" and "don't do again" lists after each trip.

You might have missed making a journal entre each day but you did say you had 3000+ pictures! Each one worth a thousand words. One good thing about digital camera's - you don't have to worry about running out of film or the cost of developing them all.

Feel free to add more accounts of your trip adventures here - enjoy the read.

Regards, Rob

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvey I will check with Billy and see if you could use his boat ways for a half day or so for a hull scrub.
Also there is a very sandy beach in the Byrdwoods that you could use on a falling tide. I could show right where it is.
Also the head of the Bay in Echo Bay is a good place to beach.
Hope to see you again this summer.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, Thanks for the offers and suggestions. I did do some scrubbing, a couple of times during the trip. One, where I was able to do a very complete scrub of the metal aft, (trim tabs, engines, transducer) and that helped. Later, I did a scrub with the boat in very shallow water, where I was wading around the outside, and scrubbing as far under as I could reach, but still missed some. I have some barnies to get off yet, Evil or Very Mad but it's cold out there on the ground, even a concrete barn floor.

Any good ideas to get them gone would be appreciated.

Has me really considering bottom paint. Something for the New Year.

Harvey
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great report, Harvey. I love that area and would definitely go back again. I too am wondering about bottom paint. Have you been able to get all the growth off?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike_J wrote:
Great report, Harvey. I love that area and would definitely go back again. I too am wondering about bottom paint. Have you been able to get all the growth off?


Hi Mike, Good to see you here. When I saw those kayakers up there, I thought about you. Pretty, and remote.

Oh yes, I got most of the growth off. When I shaved I kept the mustache and some goatee Shocked Laughing . I got rid of all the green stuff on the boat too, but it took me about 6 hours of real hard scrubbing, and I still have some barnacles to get rid of. Pretty sure they are dead, but those little hard lumps of shell don't just rub off easy.

Plastic scraper, red heart wood piece, and real scraper are all lined up to go to work. I'm open to any good ideas.

Harvey
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvey,

Why not have the boat bottom painted, and then enjoy the summer without all that work?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barnacles did not seem like such a big deal when we did 2-3-week cruises, but after several 2-3-month summers in BC and SE Alaska, followed by many days of hard work removing barnacles etc, I decided to do bottom paint on New Moon. Did it myself using water-based ablative Pettit Hydrocoat. Worked like a charm - saved me a ton of work at the end of every summer, and took little longer to apply than one summer's cleanup efforts.

There was still some green stuff, and barnacles and a few mussels on the hardware like swim step mounts, trim tabs, lower unit, etc. I learned to hit a commercial RV-sized power washer the day after pullout, and blast off the green and barnacles before they had time to dry on hard during my multi-day drive back home. This also made a big difference in how much scraping and scrubbing was needed at summer's end.

The Hydrocoat was still working pretty well ~6 years later, but wearing a bit thin on the sides, chines, and transom. Scratched that up a bit with sand paper and applied another coat or two, and voila for several more years.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard, I'd be interested to hear how you did your bottom coat application. Did you do it yourself? How did you manage to get the boat off the trailer etc. I am seriously considering getting mine coated. It sounds like you had a good few years of use before needing a recoat...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

Did it myself, on a 10,000+ pound 26-footer that I could not figure out how to safely lift from the trailer. So I left the parts covered by the trailer bunks unpainted. I figure the barnacles in those spots get pretty well squashed when I pull her out onto the trailer....

Careful cleaning, followed by Interlux 202 wax solvent, to be sure there was no residual wax from when the boat was built or when I used to wax the hull.

Then two coats of Pettit 6999 Sandless Primer - no need to sand or scuff. IIRC, there are very specific timing requirements between first and second coat, and also between second coat and first coat of bottom paint. I followed exactly - plan ahead.

Hydrocoat (2 coats, with 3 on sides, chines, and transom) went on easy, and was still doing pretty well after 6? 7? summers in SE Alaska.

I applied both primer and paint with a brush, much of it lying on my back under the trailer. Messy - I wore old glasses and coveralls.

Super glad the Hydrocoat was water-based -- way less nasty, and easy cleanup.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that clear description. I will have to look at doing that for Natural C-lection. Maybe in the spring.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard, Thanks for that description. Is the Pettit 6999 Sandless Primer the equivalent of an epoxy barrier coat?

I am really considering this too.

Harvey
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think so. The sandless primer is to make sure the bottom paint sticks, without having to give the gelcoat some "tooth" by sanding. Sure worked well for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply, Richard. Guess I still need to figure what I'm going to do with SleepyC Moon

Harvey
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About 8 years ago I had bottom paint professionally applied. I think it was around $1200 dollars at the time. It really helped with the clean up, and if I could find something to apply to the transducer and lower unit of the motor my clean up problems would be over. I do spend a bit of time touching up the bottom but that really isn't an issue. I do still remember days of had scrubbing and re-waxing before the bottom was painted, for me it was a no brainer to have the paint applied, some years the boat will be in the water for 6 months with a fair amount of usage and I'm just not up to all the work it takes to remove the marine growth when it can be prevented.
Anyway that's me thoughts on the matter.
There are a couple good places in Port Townsend who can do a great job for you.
Dave
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