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thataway



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Due to the boat lift which needs greasing fairly often, and requires some very awkward positions, plus 2 trailers, a large RV etc, I got a Lincoln air powered grease gun. Makes a huge difference...I do have a NAPA hand gun I carry in the car--

I have several tips, but one is very similar to the one John has illustrated.

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BTDT



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I use for my RV, utility and boat trailer, tractor w/implements, and boat lift. Great 'cheater' for us old farts

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G9CL2LO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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gulfcoast john



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that is so cool!
And at 9000 PSI I could probably do all kinds of damage to parts my weak grip would otherwise never be able to accidentally destroy.
I must have one someday! And less than the cost of a good flashlight! (PS John and Bob, what's your favorite flashlights?).
I learn a lot here, I would have sworn one couldn't spend over $60 on a consumer grease gun.
Westie, another learning experience. Ask here before you ask at Westmarine.
Happy Shopping!
John

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Gomer Pyle would say.. "Surprise-Surprise" as most lever operated grease guns produce 10,000 psi. That said, I have found judicious use of the trigger eliminates 'over-pressure" while holding the trigger makes for smiley faces in awkward positions, such as greasing my boat lift and back-hoe.

As to flashlights my favorite is the Super white Pak Lite:

http://www.bestglide.com/pak_light_led_light.html

I also like

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CJ4CGD8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My best grease gun is Alemite (red body)

Flashlights
just 4 of http://www.ebay.com/itm/262440195338

one of headlight
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-Lumens-CREE-Q5-LED-Zoom-Adjustable-Flashlight-Head-Torch-Light-lamp-OK-/401105169246?hash=item5d63bb2b5e:g:aIcAAOSw7KJXDefS

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrentB wrote:


one of headlight
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-Lumens-CREE-Q5-LED-Zoom-Adjustable-Flashlight-Head-Torch-Light-lamp-OK-/401105169246?hash=item5d63bb2b5e:g:aIcAAOSw7KJXDefS


I like this headlight also Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the link to the battery lube powered grease gun. It is certainly more convenient than lugging an air compressor around!

We like to have red lights to preserve our night vision.

Our favorite flashlight for every night use is the Coast PX 20. This is 155 lumen white and 30 lumen red. The white switch has a checker board pattern etched into its surface so you can feel it--the red is smooth (and red colored). I have seen these at Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot--about $19.00.

The bright light we go to is a Streamlight ProTac HL. This is 750 lumen on bright and 35 lumen on low. It can be programed, so the first touch is either high, low or strobe.

We also like a red/white headlight. We have several--with LED's. Our old standard Rayovac with Red LED, White LED and Krypton white spot
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I bought this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019P1MRKU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and I couldn't get it over the zerk nipple... What the?

I backed the collet open until it fell off and still wouldn't fit. Sure it's user error.

Ideas?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Westie wrote:
So I bought this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019P1MRKU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and I couldn't get it over the zerk nipple... What the?

I backed the collet open until it fell off and still wouldn't fit. Sure it's user error.

Ideas?


Westie- Are you pushing reasonably HARD on the grease fitting?
The new collet may be stiff and I also think they're designed to fit tightly to stop leakage.
Also, many guns have stiff barrels, not flexible rubber hoses, which would make it harder to force the gun onto the zerk nipple. Give it a try.

Joe. Teeth Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many times there is hardened grease with fine dust/debris, which covers the Zerk fitting. I will remove this with a solvent--usually mineral spirits--but sometimes lacquer thinner, or even MEK is necessary.

Here is a video on different couplers, Zerk Fittings, and use. There are other videos by this company and more instructions are given.

You sort of roll the coupler onto the Zerk ball head, not hammer it straight on.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys.

We did put a little grease on the rods and that seemed to really help. I also found a little oil on the back side of the helm so I think its a little of both poor lube and seals. The former probably brought on the later.

My engines are counter rotating.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All right...I'm at it again!

I pulled on the boat yesterday and changed fluids and the low pressure fuel filter. Everything went great except my grease gun will is definitely the wrong size for teleflex zerk fitting. I have searched and cannot find anything on this.

I'm guessing my gun is 1/8" npt and its way too small.

does anyone know the coupler size I should be using?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im trying to fit my grease gun coupler on my bleeder nipple....feeling extra bright today. I better look a little harder next time!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for making my day!

I started smiling when I read your 8:29 post and guessed you were trying to grease a bleeder valve.

Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya - I'm laughing pretty hard too. Here is what sealed the deal:

Found this list on a DF150 (I searched DF140 exclusively):

There are 4 fittings on a Suzuki DF150 that need to be greased;
-2 are located on the tilt bracket, facing forward. You can see them and get to them from inside the boat. Easiest ones of the 4 to see. These don't take much grease...maybe 2 or 3 pumps at most.
-1 is located on the port side of the motor just above the trim ram pad. This greases the steering post. I pumped about 15 times from a full size grease gun before I saw and heard stuff coming out around the bottom. This is the one that was broken off by the use of a My Wedge so if you are going to use one, use it on the stbd side of the motor.
-1 is located on the stbd side just in front of and behind the tilt lock lever. I have tried to no avail to get a regular grease gun to fit on that one all the way enough to grease it. As far as I'm concerned, this is the one you could forget to grease and it probably won't matter unless you use that lock.

And then there is the visual evidence!!!! See 8 minute mark:

https://youtu.be/ANNNOJ2bcgY
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