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breausaw
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1222 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Triple J
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:04 am Post subject: 150 Verado overheats above 2800rpm |
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https://youtu.be/TydI3L9jqi0
See above video, motor would overheat above 3800 rpm. Temp would rise above 210 and tiger alarm and digital overheat screen on Mercury smart gage, would actually reduce RPM automatically. After about 2 hours went back to normal. ..steady 148 to 152.
Thinking sticky thermostat, so replaced. 20 hours later same thing 80 miles from port, think I know the fix but just thought I'd through this out there. BTW, water pump recently replaced and water pressure on gauge within factory specs.
Could make about 15mph, just hope engine not damaged.
Called Mercury outboard customer service from remote Village of Chiniga in sawmill bay on Cell, actually got ahold of someone that seemed to know what they were talking about, told me what would most likely be the problem.
Called local dealer but was not able to talk with mechanic, even offered to pay shop time for time spent discussing issue.
Not something you necessarily want to happen that far from Port, did not seem to worsenson so did a bit of fishing before heading back. _________________ Jay
2007 22ft C-Dory Triple J 2007-2012
2007 25ft C-Dory Triple J 2012-2018
Boatless for now but looking |
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
State or Province: IN
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:20 am Post subject: |
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I cant view the video due to security block
Are the thermostats defective when testing in hot water or full of debris and clogged? _________________ Brent Barrett |
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Does the thermostats seat flush into the block or is corrosion present? |
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Does it have a poppet valve or pressure relief valve? It is spring loaded valve in the water cooling systen and designed to maintain water pressure at low rpms to help out the water pump then opens at higher rpms and the water pump can provide adequate water flow. Should it fail and not open or is clogged, it can restrict flow at higher rpms. On Yamaha, they un screw and easily accessed from the outside on the midsection leg
Also a sensor might be bad
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3595 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Well, the rest of us are guessing. What did the factory rep say was the problem? Relieve our curiosity.
BTW, given the info you've told us, the factory is the most likely to know the answer, in my opinion.
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breausaw
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1222 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Triple J
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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BrentB wrote: | Does it have a poppet valve or pressure relief valve? It is spring loaded valve in the water cooling systen and designed to maintain water pressure at low rpms to help out the water pump then opens at higher rpms and the water pump can provide adequate water flow. Should it fail and not open or is clogged, it can restrict flow at higher rpms. On Yamaha, they un screw and easily accessed from the outside on the midsection leg
Also a sensor might be bad
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Hit it on the nose most likely it's the poppet valve.
Never heard of one until last Friday when I called Mercury customer service, have the part on order and hopefully it will fix the problem. |
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while |
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breausaw
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1222 City/Region: Anchorage
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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BrentB wrote: | Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while |
Indeed, I often feel like a blind squirrel when looking for answers. First time this happened I called Murcery customer care and was told it was most likely a senser or thermostat issue, no mention of a poppet valve.
When the problem reoccured after installing a new $150 thermostat I asked the Murcery Tech of chance if there was an additional coolant regulater other then the thermostat. It was at that point the Tech mentioned he thought there was a poppet valve.
Sometimes it's the blind leading the blind. |
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breausaw
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1222 City/Region: Anchorage
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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When I picked up the poppet valve from the dealer had a chance to talk with the mechanics and got the impression it wasn't going to fix my problem, and it didn't.
So three-day fishing trip planned for this weekend cancelled. Took the boat to the dealer and left it, hopefully they will have a look at it in 3 or 4 days.
Truly a bummer, weather is awesome and the fishing is hot.
Oh well guess I'll catch up on some of my honey dues.
Will post updates when I know more.
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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bummer |
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breausaw
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1222 City/Region: Anchorage
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Weather turned snotty so don't feel so bad, hopefully have it out of the shop by next weekend and after I stuff a plug of money in the proverbial hole. |
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
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AK Angler
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 327 City/Region: South Central
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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It's possible that salt deposits are constricting flow or even blocking water passages. Do you flush regularly with Salt Away or a similar product? _________________ -Rod
89CD16A- The Navicula has been sold... |
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breausaw
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1222 City/Region: Anchorage
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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AK Angler wrote: | It's possible that salt deposits are constricting flow or even blocking water passages. Do you flush regularly with Salt Away or a similar product? |
Gets a flushing after every trip. But even if there were restrictions in the water jacket it would not explain the sudden onset. First time it happened the problem cleared up after about 2 hours, engine temperature stabilized at about 149 150 regardless of RPM as it should be.
As I stated the problem presented itself as if the thermostat was sticking or just not working properly so replaced it and the problem reoccurs about 15 hours later; truly a head-scratcher. |
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
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