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CDory23
Joined: 23 Nov 2011 Posts: 227
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:01 am Post subject: Modifying trailer guide for Wallas exhaust |
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I often use the Wallas stove while the boat is sitting on the trailer as many do. The problem is the guide on my trailer is right up against the Wallas stove exhaust. I"ve searched the forum in the past for this issue and the practice i've been using is loosening 4 bolts and pulling the guide out far enough to give the exhaust adequate space. As this doesn't sound too difficult it is time consuming at times, annoying, and also can create an environment for pinch point especially when its really cold.
Does anybody else who has this issue been able to solve this problem in a more practical way? I've thought about drilling a hole in the guide but that would sacrifice structural integrity. I've also thought of cutting the guide and putting a hinge/lock hardware on to easily prop it open for the exhaust but none of these ideas sound great.
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Will-C
Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 2476 City/Region: Temple
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:47 am Post subject: Modifying trailer guide for Wallas exhaust |
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I would think about cutting for and recessing a kitchen sized stainless sink drain fitting in the side of your guide to match the Wallas's exhaust. You know the female deal at the bottom of a sink that you place the sink stopper into.That would allow for a little extra space and not having to line it up your exhaust perfectly. The other idea would be to recess a straight fishing rod holder cut to length as to not protrude past the outside edge of the guide its self. A little more tricky to line up perfectly. Another thought would to extend the guide holders or lower the whole guide vertically hence the Wallas exhaust would not be blocked.
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tsturm
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1134 City/Region: Soldotna
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:48 am Post subject: Re: Modifying trailer guide for Wallas exhaust |
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CDory23 wrote: | I often use the Wallas stove while the boat is sitting on the trailer as many do. The problem is the guide on my trailer is right up against the Wallas stove exhaust. I"ve searched the forum in the past for this issue and the practice i've been using is loosening 4 bolts and pulling the guide out far enough to give the exhaust adequate space. As this doesn't sound too difficult it is time consuming at times, annoying, and also can create an environment for pinch point especially when its really cold.
Does anybody else who has this issue been able to solve this problem in a more practical way? I've thought about drilling a hole in the guide but that would sacrifice structural integrity. I've also thought of cutting the guide and putting a hinge/lock hardware on to easily prop it open for the exhaust but none of these ideas sound great.
Any help appreciated. Thanks |
Move the side board up or down? |
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CDory23
Joined: 23 Nov 2011 Posts: 227
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies. The sink drain isn't a bad idea. I like the guides where they area and don't want to lower them. I'll post when I find my final solution. |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:46 am Post subject: |
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I would think that lowering the side board bunks would be the best solution. I have looked at that for my boat as a possible solution too. getting it to sit in the same exact spot every time; I'm not sure how well that will work out. You would have to be within portions of an inch, for the drilled hole system to work and I agree, drilling the side board will weaken them. Another option might be to put one of the "clam shell" covers over that vent. I know some have done that to deflect water away so it down not go up into the exhaust port.
Harvey
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Aurelia
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 2331 City/Region: Gig Harbor
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Consider moving or changing the guides before you do anything else. Many C-brats have long guides and while many folks like them, it could be argued that they are much longer than needed. Depending on your launching methods and experiences, you may find a much shorter board to be plenty of help. Look carefully how your side guides are mounted to both the frame and the board and what options you have for adjustment.
Could you shorten your boards and slide the support back enough to clear the outlet? How about cutting out a 1ft section of the board then patching it with about a 3/4in wide by 20in long piece of aluminum flatbar on the top and bottom board edges. They could be screwed or bolted in place without contacting the boat, and leaving a nicely sized heat window.
Shorter support board examples below,
Short version
http://images0.boattrader.com/resize/1/22/24/4222224_20130313140514456_1_LARGE.jpg?t=1195537
Shorter version (what we use)
http://www.sturdybuiltonline.com/assets/images/Guides/sideguideset.jpg
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Greg,
I really like the aluminum bar idea. To keep the metal away from the boat, I think I might use some channel or "L" angles and put them on the outside, and overlap the ends by 12 - 18 inches on each end, Through bolt with fender washers counter sunk on the boat side and maybe double carpet. I would probably leave a good 12" opening. to allow for position variables and heat dissipation.
Do you think that much overlap and bar would be too stiff? Here is what my side bunks look like now.
Harvey
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Aurelia
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 2331 City/Region: Gig Harbor
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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That is probably more overlap than needed with the relatively low loads seen by side boards. They are only guiding a (hopefully) slow moving boat onto the trailer which is a job accomplished using small PVC tube stock in other designs.
If you used L shaped angle stock and fastened to the top-back and bottom-back, there would be no hull contact. I would bet you could use 4-6 inches of overlap and 4 simple short (predrilled, 2 per face) wood screws on each end with plenty of strength. This would save the washers, nuts, counter sinking, and likely any re-carpeting.
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CDory23
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I do like the the idea of cutting a space and replacing within a section of flat bar on the outside of the guides. I would use galvanized and probably overlap maybe 6 inches and secure with screws or perhaps 2 thru bolts each side. Maybe wrap it with carpet as well. Its far enough away from the vent that it may not burn it. I have to think about the Aesthetics, but functionally this may be the winner! |
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