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thataway
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:29 pm Post subject: Two Tris around the World |
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For those who are interested in sailboat/racing, there are two trimarans who have been on standby for an attempt at the Jules Verne Trophy--faster trip around the World non stop. Spindrift 2 is a 40 meter vessel which set the 45 day 13 + hour record under an other name, She has been modified, including chopping the rig down. (She sailed with a reef in the main most of the time)--making her faster! She carries a crew of 14. Her co manager is a lady, who just took sailing a few years ago! This boat set the Trans Atlantic Record averaging over 39 knots!
The first boat to leave was IDEC SPORT, a 31.5 meter try, with a crew of 6. She is also capable of speeds of twice the wind speed. Both of these crewsu are very experienced both in multihulls, and in around the world races--with most of the sailors having at least one around the world race under their belts.
The first Jules Verne Race was in 1993, and between then and the last record run of 45 days 13 hours 53 minutes 34 days was shaved off the time, and the average speed from 12.63 knots to 19.75 knots!
One might ask why start in the middle of the night, in the beginning of winter. The most important part of these crews is the router, who has to determine the most favorable wind conditions for the race (These are land based, but still essential crew members!) They should get to the equator form the Southern Tip of England in about 5 days (or less?)--and from then on, until they cross the equator again, on the way North, they are in the Southern Ocean--where it is ...spring time. The ice pack will be a bit further south, and hopefully the Roaring 40's will be not more than that...40 knots of wind! It should be an interesting race. I am not yet sure of one tracker. There is a thread on Sailing Anarchy, which will give some of the best overview:
Jules Verne _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
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Wandering Sagebrush
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Interesting! Those kinds of speeds and conditions are hard on boats and people... I remember (?) seeing video of a Nigel Irens tri breaking up in a race. _________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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thataway
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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The universal tracker is back up, with the two boats on it--does not have the old record:
Universal tracker
Separate tracks for Spindrift 2
Sindrif 2
And for IDEC Sport:
IDEC SPORT
It appears that both boats are currently behind the record pace, but still making very fast progress.
And a little video: sailing |
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hardee
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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45mph wind and 6 meter seas, and making 30+ knots of speed, that's m ore of everything than I would be comfortable in and then some
Lot's of exciting sailing coming up on this one. Thanks for sharing this one Bob,
Harvey
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_________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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Foggy
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Recognizing speed changes you, I like sailbotes that go faster
than 10 knots. So, I dialed into multihulls some time ago.
Bought a Hobie 16 as soon as I could afford one (sail#12086,
early '70s). Best and most fun/$ I ever spent.
Then, later, built an Atlantic 42 catamaran (a beauty Chris White
design) with my bro and planned a Great Circle trip one year we
never completed loosing confidence in the boat and finding out
boat ownership works best with only one captain.
Despite building an inversion birth into this cat, since we already
realized the most stable position for any multihull is upside down,
this actually had nothing to do with our decision to dump this boat.
Somebody else's beauty of a headache now.
But back to these races above mentioned . They're great and sailed
by a 'different breed'.
Aye. _________________ "I don't want any cake" - said no one ever.
If someone tells you they don't eat cake, unfriend them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life. |
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thataway
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Spindrift 2 across the equator
This gives a short but good picture of live aboard an ocean racer, in relatively calm conditions. They have a drone! Photos of the boat going 11 knots in the doldrums! Well worth taking a few minutes and watching. Those who have crossed oceans will appreciate the "shower" scene! Often you get the squall, and then after soaping up, it is gone! |
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Leadbelly
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Bob - I'm another former Corsair F-27 owner. Also owned an F-24 MKI and a MKII. I've been keeping my eye on the F-22 progress in New Zealand on f-boat.com, too.
But, the C-Dory 22 is working just fine for us and we'll really enjoying cruising at 18 knots. But then again, we'd go that fast in the F-27...
https://youtu.be/pP4iAaWm8Ok
https://youtu.be/Mh7LJHC9B-A
https://youtu.be/aqxKVDOw6LM
The Jules Verne race is something else. Just a wee sprint around Antarctica!
Cheers! _________________ Will
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BTDT
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:09 am Post subject: |
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thataway wrote: | Spindrift 2 across the equator
This gives a short but good picture of live aboard an ocean racer, in relatively calm conditions. They have a drone! Photos of the boat going 11 knots in the doldrums! Well worth taking a few minutes and watching. Those who have crossed oceans will appreciate the "shower" scene! Often you get the squall, and then after soaping up, it is gone! |
Small world! I worked for a crew member on the Spindrift 2, and had no idea she was into sailing. Her brother yes, but not Dona.
John Clark _________________ John & Vicki Clark
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Marco Flamingo
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:33 am Post subject: |
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The video of Spindrift reminds me of a video that a multihull sailing friend of mine sent me years ago. Likewise, it had incredible footage of spectacular speeds. Likewise, there was throbbing music for the soundtrack. It was all pictures of electrical equipment and computer screens showing the speed attained while living inside of a plastic tube and pushing buttons. No porpoise on the bow. No albatross following the boat. No sounds of seabirds.
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. But maybe this activity should have a different name, as it is only vaguely related to "sailing." Same with riding a horse and "riding" a Ducati.
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thataway
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Marco Flamingo wrote: | The video of Spindrift reminds me of a video that a multihull sailing friend of mine sent me years ago. Likewise, it had incredible footage of spectacular speeds. Likewise, there was throbbing music for the soundtrack. It was all pictures of electrical equipment and computer screens showing the speed attained while living inside of a plastic tube and pushing buttons. No porpoise on the bow. No albatross following the boat. No sounds of seabirds.
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. But maybe this activity should have a different name, as it is only vaguely related to "sailing." Same with riding a horse and "riding" a Ducati.
Mark |
Sorry to disagree, these videos are of the time in calm conditions. This boat has 14 crew--so probably 7 are off watch. But there will be 4 to 7 on the deck at all times. Only the navigator, or alternate navigator will be spending a lot of time on watch below decks. Things happen very quickly at 30 knots. I have never sailed at that speed, but I have sailed in a monohull at 22 knots, and averaged over 16 down the Molokai channel under spinnaker--at the helm for 8 hours. Nothing like living in a tube--very real!
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bob-kir
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Bob that sailing a fast multihull is sailing at it's best. I built and sailed an F-25c all carbon trimaran for 11 years like the one that won the Race to Alaska. I have never done anything more exciting than driving a tri at 20+ knots at night with a crew of 3 in 6 ft seas with full main, spinaker and jib. You are only in the cabin for short 1 hour cat naps, if at all. On some 330 mile Chicago to Mac races when we had good wind none of the crew slept because it was so much fun and you never felt tired. When you trim your sails on a fast multi you pick up full knots, not tenths. Definately sailing at it's best.
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journey on
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Just bringing this post back up to the top. It's going to be a long ride.
Boris |
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