Catastrophic failure of Honda BF150

Jazzmanic · Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:41 pm Post subject:

So sorry to hear of your engine problems Tosca. That's a lot of $$ to repair and I don't wish that on anybody.

Regarding the Suzuki corrosion issues, the problem I'm most familiar with has been well documented. The issue I'm referring to is the engine holder plug-dissimilar metal problem for 90-140Hp motors from 1999-2008. Luckily our DF90 escaped this corrosion issue, most likely due to being stored inside at Twin Bridges. I was able to change out the plug successfully with no signs of corosive damage. The motors have since been redesigned to do away with those plugs.

There have been well documented corrosion issues with Yamaha's as well so I'm not sure there's any outboard manufacturer that hasn't had one issue or another. All of the modern outboard motors are pretty reliable now. As others have said, it's the luck of the draw or in your case just bad luck. I hope you fine an acceptable and affordable resolution.

localboy · Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:59 pm Post subject:

Salmon Fisher · Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:42 pm Post subject:

Here is a link to a 150 Suzuki in Everett at Performance Marine. I think it's new.

http://www.perform-marine.com/suzukioutboards.htm

A Yamaha 150 in Port Angles

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bod/5069213512.html

smckean (Tosca) · Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:58 pm Post subject:

Well, here's my current plan.........

After doing significant research and talking to boat-knowledgable friends, I've decided to repower in spite of the expense ($25,000 all inclusive cost, even sales tax -- I have negotiated a $17,000 price for the new engine alone). Frankly, I just want what I want Wink

, and I want a new engine......my engine.....the one I will know from its 1st day to its last.

Next was: which engine. I looked at Honda, Mercs, and Yamaha, and have decided to go with the Yamaha F200XCA. There were many reasons for this choice. There were many positives for the other choices too, but the F200XCA seemed to fit my needs/wants the best. In particular, if I'm going to repower, I wanted 200HP, but with no extra weigh on the stern: the F200XCA is perfect for that since it only weighs an additional 4 pounds over my previous Honda BF150. Next, I've become intrigued by digital controls. The F200XCA is one of the few (only?) 200HP that offers this option. Last, I like the fact that Yamaha has the most extensive service network in Canada and Alaska. Living only 30 miles from the British Columbia inland waterways, I plan to spend significant time in BC (Gulf Islands, Broughtons, etc).

Any comments on the engine, the controls, the plan, the cost.....anything, please.

BrentB · Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:02 pm Post subject:

thumbs up

3 or 4 blade prop.
?

smckean (Tosca) · Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:18 pm Post subject:

thataway · Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:26 pm Post subject:

The nice thing is that you will probably never need that Yamaha service network. Congratulations on your choice. There was not a bad one in the lot. It will be interesting to see the performance numbers, with the Yama 200!

Why digital controls? I can see if in a 2 or 3 station boat, or if you had a long and complicated cable run.

Salmon Fisher · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:10 am Post subject:

Sounds like a great plan. Those Yamahas are real work horses and darn dependable, like all these days. I guess now you have to decide if you want to match with a 9.9 high thrust Yammi kicker! Very Happy

Wonderful, quiet motor.

smckean (Tosca) · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:43 am Post subject:

Grumpy · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:56 am Post subject:

I may be wrong but I believe that many modern engines are in fact "Digitally controlled" as the cable from the throttle lever simply moves a position transducer on the engine which issues signals to the ECU.

Moving that transducer up to the throttle lever replaces the cable with an electrical connection.

Well proven technology and can make for much neater helm space.

Just my 2c worth.

M

BrentB · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:03 pm Post subject:

I would do the same

Single LED display or 3 separates one ?

Does OB have a aux power cable?

thataway · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:28 pm Post subject:

smckean (Tosca) · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:35 pm Post subject:

Grumpy, you summarize pretty much exactly how I feel about it.

BrentB, I'm not sure what you mean by: "Single LED display or 3 separates one?" Are you talking about the gauges? If so, Yami has a single rectangular guage with all info on it; but I am leaning toward more traditional round gauges. In particular, I don't think I'd like a digital display for the tach; I want a needle and a classic "clock" face. I already have a NavMan and speedo (displayed on the chartplotter), so I don't see a need to add those Yami gauges. However, I am meeting with the mechanic on Tuesday to work out those details. My helm station is already pretty crowded, so my options are limited. One thing I will change is moving the trim tab display higher. I am taller than the previous owner, and I have to drop my head a couple of feet to see that display as I fiddle with the tabs.

Dreamer · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:45 pm Post subject:

That should be a sweet set-up. Have you considered having it done in Oregon to avoid the sales tax?

BrentB · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:52 pm Post subject:

Yes I meant the single digital LED or LCD display