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Discovery and Hunkydory in South East Alaska 2015
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jkidd



Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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City/Region: Northern, Utah
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C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Voyager
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure sounds like you guys are having a great time. Be safe out there and thanks for the great stories.
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Discovery



Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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City/Region: LOA, UTAH
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Discovery
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your following the Delorme track, you can see that we are home in Utah. I'll post an update tonight.
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1984 22' Classic sold 2003
2003 24' TomCat sold 2005
2006 TC255 Discovery Sold 2020
2006 CD 22' Angler Sold 2014
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JamesTXSD



Joined: 01 Mar 2005
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City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
State or Province: AZ
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: "Wild Blue" (sold 9/14)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome home - sounds like an epic trip!
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jkidd



Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back.
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Discovery



Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7-31-15

We rode the bus to Juneau, and shopped for the last of the kids and grandkids presents. It's 13 miles to the end of the bus line in Juneau from Auke Bay. It rained again almost all day. The locals just go about their business like rain is the normal condition. We will be glad to return to the mountains and semi arid conditions of home.

8-1 to 5-15

We fueled at 7 AM. I put in 50 gallons, just to be safe in returning to Skagway. We ran at speed, mostly 18 to 20 MPH and made the 85 miles before noon. It was calm seas for most of the way today. An unusual condition for the Lynn Canal, but much appreciated by us for our final day of boating in Alaska. The truck and trailer were just as we had left them in June. I worried about the unsecured parking conditions in Skagway, with the trailer in one lot and the truck in the public lot in front of the harbormasters office. We washed the boat as well as we could, had lunch and left Alaska. We made it to Teslin, Yukon Territory by dark.

Over the next 4 days we traveled back through Canada and into the US and home. Its 2251 miles each way. We travel as much as we can each day and only spent 4 nights on the road. Washing the boat was a waste, there are miles of road construction, mostly in British Columbia, and of course it was also raining. The boat and truck are covered in Canadian mud.

I'll do a mileage and fuel consumption breakdown and report the results later.
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Water Bill



Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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City/Region: Lake Keowee, SC
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C-Dory Year: 2018
Vessel Name: Mystery Girl (Ranger Tug R-23)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you made it back safe and sound. Sounds like you had a great trip.
Bill
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Discovery



Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some statistics from the trip.

Total miles traveled by boat = 1235.5 sm.
Total fuel used = 362.8 g.
Miles per gallon for trip = 3.045 MPG

Total miles traveled at displacement speed = 1103.6 sm.
Total fuel used at displacement speed = 291.7 g.
Miles per gallon at displacement speed = 3.783 MPG

Total miles at speed (3800 RPM, 20 MPH) = 131.9 sm.
Total fuel used at speed = 71.1 g.
Miles per gallon at speed = 1.855 MPG

We only traveled at speed on two days. The day we went to and from LaConte Glacier from Petersburg, and the final day from Auke Bay to Skagway.

The remainder of the trip we tried to use the most efficient speed to extend our range. This turned out to be running on one motor and trying to maintain the RPM's below 2000. I alternated between the motors to keep the hour meters as equal as possible. The speed was greatly effected be the tide and currents. We traveled as slow as 4.5 MPH, against the current, or 10 + MPH with the current. We tried to adjust our daily schedule to take advantage of the tide/current. If the wind would be significant and against the tide, causing a bad chop and swells, or we had to go against the tide/current, we adjusted. We stayed in port or at anchor on a few days to avoid these unpleasant, unfavorable conditions. We did get caught a few times when the wind came up unexpectedly.

Traveling at trawler speeds was counter to our nature, but we got used to it and learned to enjoy the scenery. It did result in some long days however. It was a treat to run 20 MPH on the two days we did. I had changed to 4 blade 17" pitch props for this trip. Anticipating better low speed, heavily loaded efficiency. I have no way to determine if this hypothesis was born out. The 4 blade props did seem to hurt our MPG at speed. We usually can get 2 to 2.25 MPG loaded, with the 17" 3 blade stainless props we normally use.

I guess the lesson here is that you can extend the range of the TomCat, to more than twice its normal range, if your willing to slow down and enjoy the ride.

We had a great time with Jay and JoLee on this Alaska trip. They were exceptional, experienced guides, and great company. Thanks for organizing this South East Alaska adventure.
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El and Bill



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You had a great trip with fine companions. Thanks for the summary. Welcome home.
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Discovery



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some more info on the trip.

Total cost for 362.8 gallons of boat gas was $1446.95 or $3.99 per gallon.
Total cost for moorage for 17 nights was $368.78
Two months trailer storage in Skagway was $150.60

So the total boat associated costs were $1966.33 Of course I'll have to change oil and filters and do regular maintainance on the boat and motors now that were home.

We traveled 5102 miles towing from Utah to Skagway and back home. I didn't keep close records on the truck fuel costs. We stayed in the boat every night, whither on the water or land. I'll estimate the truck fuel cost at about $1600.00
We had to eat etc. anyway so overall the trip was about $3600.00 for two months vacation. Not bad at all.
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Casey



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good write-up and recap on your AK trip, mileages, and costs. Thanks.

I have been considering switching to a (single) four-blade prop but haven't done it (yet). With the cost of a SS prop, one doesn't do that on a whim. I know many vendors will permit you to 'try a different prop, but we would want to do it on an extended basis to really get good data.

Most of our cruising is in displacement mode and frankly I have no complaint on current performance. On those occasions went we do put Dessert 1st up on plane, she doesn't complain ... it just takes a while to gently get her up there. (Like most folks we cruise pretty heavily loaded.)

So ... if you, or anyone else, have some in-depth thoughts on four blade prop's I'd like to hear them!

Best,
Casey&Mary
...currently at Brockport (NY) on the Erie Canal (Day 127 & 2346sm)
PS: we're LOVING the Erie Canal. As most folks have confirmed, the western end seems to be better, and the abundance of free or (very) low cost services and dockage is amazing. This is like boating-lite ... you rarely even bother to check the wx! We have even discussed coming back (a rarity for us...) and spending a whole season putt'sing up and down the canal staying at our favorite places, moving-on, then coming back, etc.

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2006 CC23 "Katmai" (purchased August 2009)
2003 CD22 "Naknek" (sold May 2008)
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