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dpod2003
Joined: 22 May 2016 Posts: 27 City/Region: Bellingham
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Kingfisher
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:05 pm Post subject: Anchor upgrade question |
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I just purchased a C Dory 25 that has a Delta 14# anchor, with 1/4" chain and 1/2" rode. A friend has given me a Delta 22# anchor, and it seems that it will fit on the anchor roller just fine. My question is that the recommendation for chain size on the 22# is 5/16th ", not 1/4". I don't want to change the entire rode to fit this larger anchor, and as well my Lewmar 700 windlass needs 1/4" also. I am thinking that it really would not make a difference, as 1/4" is the recommended size for the C Dory anyway. I would like the security of having a larger anchor. What are your thoughts on doing this?
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3595 City/Region: Valley Centre
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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OK, 1/4 HT chain has a working load of 2600 lbs. and 1/2 line has a tensile strength of 7,500 lbs. By the time you reach 2600 lbs, I feel the front of the boat will be broken. So 1/4 HT chain and 1/2 line is what I use with Journey On and it's been good through some dicey situations.
You're OK with both the heavier anchor and the 1/4 HT chain. I would recommend 1/2 line, but some use smaller. The anchor will pull loose before your rode will break.
BTW, 5/16 HT has a working load limit of 3,900 lbs. If you need that, the boat has gone anyway.
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tsturm
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1134 City/Region: Soldotna
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Anchor upgrade question |
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dpod2003 wrote: | I just purchased a C Dory 25 that has a Delta 14# anchor, with 1/4" chain and 1/2" rode. A friend has given me a Delta 22# anchor, and it seems that it will fit on the anchor roller just fine. My question is that the recommendation for chain size on the 22# is 5/16th ", not 1/4". I don't want to change the entire rode to fit this larger anchor, and as well my Lewmar 700 windlass needs 1/4" also. I am thinking that it really would not make a difference, as 1/4" is the recommended size for the C Dory anyway. I would like the security of having a larger anchor. What are your thoughts on doing this?
Doug |
I have used A 22# Lewmar with a 100' of 1/4" chain & 300' of 1/2" line for the last 10 yrs. Works perfect. Where did the 5/16 chain come from?
Have a good one
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Pacificcoast101
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 717 City/Region: Torrance
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C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:27 am Post subject: |
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Just because you upgraded the anchor does not mean you need to increase the chain size. You are plenty adequately covered with what you have, provided the chain is all in good shape, (no rusted, corroded away or weak connecting links).
Harvey
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dpod2003
Joined: 22 May 2016 Posts: 27 City/Region: Bellingham
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the help with my question. It sounds like I am good to go, and I will certainly sleep better with the bigger size.
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20813 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Agree, with all of the above. I used 1/4" HT (G4) chain on the 25, Tom Cat 255. I used 5/16 HT on my cal 46-- and anchored in winds with gusts up to 80 knots.
You are fine with the HT the weak link may be the shackle. Be sure you have a shackle rated for the chain SWL. Safe working load is conservative. The breaking strength of 1/4" HT chain is 7750#! _________________ Bob Austin
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:52 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Bob about the shackle. And last year, I took mine out when I up graded my anchor to the Rocna. I decided to try it without the shackle, but took it with me, "just in case." after a full season and about 60 nights at anchor, the shackle is still in the storage box under my helm step.
Harvey
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20813 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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hardee wrote: | I agree with Bob about the shackle. And last year, I took mine out when I up graded my anchor to the Rocna. I decided to try it without the shackle, but took it with me, "just in case." after a full season and about 60 nights at anchor, the shackle is still in the storage box under my helm step.
Harvey
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Harvey,
How did you attach the chain to the anchor shank without a shackle? |
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Robert H. Wilkinson
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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thataway wrote: |
How did you attach the chain to the anchor shank without a shackle? |
I was wondering the same thing - thinking maybe he is talking about a swivel.??
Rob
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:00 am Post subject: |
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Robert H. Wilkinson wrote: | thataway wrote: |
How did you attach the chain to the anchor shank without a shackle? |
I was wondering the same thing - thinking maybe he is talking about a swivel.??
Rob
PS. or maybe he had twin shackles |
Whoops
I said shackle but I really meant swivel is what I took out. Sorry.
Harvey
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