SeaPiper 34

Water Bill · Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 6:16 pm Post subject: SeaPiper 34

Here is a new trawler just coming out for everyone to take a look at.
Bill

http://www.seapiper.com/

hardee · Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 7:17 pm Post subject:

Interesting design. I like the basic idea, (KISS), not so sure I like the view from the wheelhouse. Think I'd like higher and closer forward for handling view.

Priced pretty nicely.

Harvey
SleepyC Moon

Chester · Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 7:44 pm Post subject:

I like the concept. The low price point scares me though.

journey on · Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:02 pm Post subject:

This is a 8' 6" beam, 34" length displacement hull. I assume it's not too stable on it's own as they shove 2500 lbs of ballast into the hull. And it has a cockpit in the center, where any water coming over the bow will congregate. I hope it has good drainage. It's trailerable, though, with the right truck.

At a price of $114,000 it's in the ballpark of a Tomcat or 25 Ranger Tug with even more amenities. I'd love to find out where it's going to be built and more important, see one demonstrated. If their business plan works, we'll all be moving to China.

Boris

Aurelia · Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:09 pm Post subject:

looks nice and has some uniqueish features but that split cabin layout is a non-starter for us. Maybe in warm dry regions but here in the PNW?

Greg

brevity · Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 11:50 pm Post subject:

I love it! Can't wait until they build a few - it will be awesome to see one in real life.

RobLL · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 12:39 am Post subject:

See the news/blog section. This will also be offered in a motor sailor edition. Aren't the dimensions (circa 34 by Cool

more sailing than trawler?

Two Bears · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 12:42 am Post subject:

I've been enjoying the YouTube adds for the Aspen single engine multihull boats. The C90, or 28 footer has lots of nice features, is trailer-able (but not with a half ton PU), quite stable as it is a multihull, it gets the same mileage as my CD22, (3 mpg of diesel), but at $260,000 is a bit beyond my reach. Maybe in my next life.

Chuck

Foggy · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 6:50 am Post subject:

Life at 10 mph is not the same as 18 mph, on average.

Pilothouse more aft, where I'd be most of the time, gives a much smoother ride
into seas. Not so good for those riding in the bow compartment on a long
passage.

Set up nicely for a Mariachi band on the foredeck and dancing in the center
cockpit...

Looks like it was designed by a freighter captain.

I'd rent one but probably not buy until I settle down some.

Aye.

Grandpa used to say, "Speed changes you."

RobLL · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:00 am Post subject:

I couldn't make the emoticon go away, I typed the numeral eight and the right parenthesis. Odd.

rogerbum · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:15 am Post subject:

rogerbum · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:23 am Post subject:

As for the boat design, I'm having a hard time understanding the desirability of having an open space between the main cabin and the sleeping quarters and then a really tiny cockpit. I don't really want to have to walk in the weather to get to the fore cabin from the salon and the aft cockpit space is so small it's almost useless (especially for a fisherman). Move that salon forward to join with the forecabin and give me a bigger cockpit and then you have something. Then in the early AM I can arise from bed and get a drink from the fridge without going out into the weather. The current design makes no sense to me at all.

journey on · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:24 am Post subject:

RobLL,

Newer sailboats are using beam for stability, as opposed to adding ballast. For example, a Catalina 34' sailboat has a beam of 12' and a dinghy bottom (flatter, but still rounded.) That's so when it's heeled, the weight has a bigger lever arm to right the boat. Makes for a lighter and more stable boat. Lighter is cheaper and faster. The Catalina 34 is a good sailing boat. The weight, including ballast is 12,000 lbs.

The SeaPiper 34, however, appears to go the other way. It's narrower, at leagel highway limits, 8 1/2', and adds 2500 # of weight for stability for a total of 15,500 lbs. And since it costs money to add weight, I don't understand the narrow beam. They advertise 2000 mile range, but i certainly don't want to take that out in an ocean.

BTW, the company is located in Carlsbad, just down the street from home. Wonder is any of those boats will appear in SoCal.

Boris

RobLL · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:31 am Post subject:

Roger, Journey - thanks for the responses. I don't know 'dingy' about sailboats, but the picture of the motor sailor seems to make sense as to all over design. But I wonder about making a basic hull serve for both a motor and sail boat. It would take one heck of a truck to pull the thing. On the other hand a used one for 40% of the new price might be OK. LOL.

breausaw · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:44 am Post subject:

It has range something Ranger Tugs don't, and the layout is bazaar to say the least.