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Leon
Joined: 21 Nov 2011 Posts: 30 City/Region: Terrace
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2011
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Sea Nile
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:27 pm Post subject: 23ft venture weight |
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The C-dory site says the average weight of a loaded 23 ft venture c-dory with trailer is around 5000lbs.........can anyone confirm that??
The C-dory site says the 25ft c-dory is around 4800lbs and I have heard this is way off......so asking about the 23 ft Venture
Thank you
Leon |
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ghone
Joined: 13 Aug 2008 Posts: 1428 City/Region: Nanaimo
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2011
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Kerri On
Photos: Kerri On
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hi there. I figure our fully cruise loaded 22 at 4800-5,000 including trailer of 1050 lbs. the 23 weighs close to 800- 1,000 lbs more. So figure on 5800-6,100 Fully loaded including trailer. You'll be safe at these numbers. A 23 owner will chime in I'm sure. Some folks run lighter but these figures are full fuel, water, groceries, gear, dinghy crew (2) etc. the factory numbers are bare hull and deck as they leave the factory I believe, absolutely no final rigging out. That number on the 25 is way off. More likely 7500-8000 according to owners.
Are you looking for a 23? Welcome aboard!
George |
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Will-C
Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 2476 City/Region: Temple
State or Province: PA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Will-C
Photos: Will-C
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:06 pm Post subject: 23ft Venture Weight |
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2008 Venture 23 sitting on an Aluminum Float On trailer with 150 hp Yamaha four stroke, not much gas or water in boat.
D.D _________________ Chevrolet The Heart Beat Of America |
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williwaw
Joined: 05 Jan 2014 Posts: 148 City/Region: Portland
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Williwaw
Photos: Williwaw
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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My boat + trailer is about 5400 for everyday cruising. Add a few hundred pounds more if going out for an extended cruise. |
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 7445 City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
State or Province: AZ
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: "Wild Blue" (sold 9/14)
Photos: Wild Blue
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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When we weighed our boat (not a 23), I put the tongue jack on one section of the scale, the dual axles on another section, to get the true weight (including tongue weight). Yes, you have to disconnect, but it gives you a more accurate representation of your towing weight. Separate front and rear axle weight on the truck, too. |
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tcr_pnw
Joined: 05 Jan 2013 Posts: 200 City/Region: Puget Sound
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Sea Star
Photos: Sea Star
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:06 am Post subject: |
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I trailer around 5,300-5,500 with twins and a med/med-light load |
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jennykatz
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 1678 City/Region: naples
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Little Treasurer
Photos: Jennykatz
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:45 am Post subject: weight of 23 Venture |
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We have weighed our 23 cape cruiser venture(2900lb) a few years back going up to Tenn. it weighed in at 5100 lb. this was with canvas and bedding and a small 5000 btu A/C with an alum tandem trailer (1100 lb.)with a f-115 Yamaha (405 lb )
The cape cruiser is about 200 lb less then the CD venture .the venture were a little more finished inside . I think if you use 5000 lb to 5500lb you should be good .
Also most of the CD ventures have 135-150 hp outboards extra 70lb or more plus extra small kicker engines 150lb plus another 200lb for the CD venture series .Jim _________________ retired 8/08 from UAL, still working pt tm
Duck c-22 cruiser sold 6/23/08
06 Venture Cruiser with merc115CT
00 cd16 cruiser honda 40 sold 3/12 |
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My IRA
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 233 City/Region: Springfield
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2013
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Aidiam
Photos: My IRA
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Our 2013 Venture with full fuel and water but medium equipment load weighed 5150lb. _________________ Jerry and Helen
1984 Arima Explorer sold 1985
1985 Arima 17 SR sold 1992
1992 C-Dory 22 Cruiser sold 8/96
1992 OLympic 26XLF Sold 10/2000
1989 Arima 19 SR sold 2003
2004 C-Dory 25 sold 10/05
1992 Bounty 25 Offshore Pilot sold 6/2010
2006 Arima 17 SC sold 9/2012
2013 C-Dory 23 Venture |
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Leon
Joined: 21 Nov 2011 Posts: 30 City/Region: Terrace
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2011
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Sea Nile
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I am looking into buying a 23 ft venture, I was hoping to pull it with a toyota tacoma, rated to pull 6400lbs....... I just really like a smaller pickup. Easier to back up, easier to park, easier to get stuff out of the box........ thank you for the information...... thinking I need a bigger truck. |
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ghone
Joined: 13 Aug 2008 Posts: 1428 City/Region: Nanaimo
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2011
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Kerri On
Photos: Kerri On
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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The 23 is likely too close to your trucks rated tow limit. The 22 may be fine. I have many thousands of miles towing the 22 with a '07 F150 Lariat with no problems. I originally towed my 22 with a B4000 4x4 Mazda truck with a 6 cyl. Rated 5000. No problem towing it when new and light. A worry Stopping it when loaded. Oh my!! . Hence the F150.
Enjoy the search. The 23 is also a fine boat.
George |
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RobMcClain
Joined: 21 May 2012 Posts: 355 City/Region: Summerlin, NV
State or Province: NV
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Freedom
Photos: Freedom
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Leon, we tow our '06 Cape Cruiser Venture 23 with a 2008 Toyota Sequoia. It is rated to tow 8500 pounds (and with the factory tow package it can tow up to 9500). While it is a large SUV, the cavernous interior holds everything locked safe and sound. To my surprise, I have found the Sequoia to be very nimble. It drives like a small vehicle with a nice tight turning radius. It also has large brakes that help to safely stop the heavy load. We've towed the boat thousands of miles and through a wide range of environments, and we've never encountered any sort of issue. If you decide to consider a larger vehicle you might want to take a look at a Sequoia. Good luck!
Rob |
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williwaw
Joined: 05 Jan 2014 Posts: 148 City/Region: Portland
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Williwaw
Photos: Williwaw
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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We tow our CC23 with a Tacoma rated at 6500 lbs and it works fine. I did install electric-over-hydraulic brakes and it made a HUGE difference in stopping power (even works backing down ramp!).
Of course it would be nicer to have a larger truck (or boat?) but everything is a trade-off, right? The smaller truck is easier to park on our street the 99% of the time when I'm not towing. And with my setup I don't feel safety is an issue at all. When I'm towing I can definitely tell the boat is back there but the V6 seems to have plenty of power (it probably has more HP than an older V8 ).
Now if I was regularly going over the Rockies then I'd probably be singing a different song but for the casual towing I do now it's fine. |
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Will-C
Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 2476 City/Region: Temple
State or Province: PA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Will-C
Photos: Will-C
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:31 am Post subject: 23ft venture weight |
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We have towed our boat about 40 thousand miles. From Pa out to Flaming Gorge Yellowstone Grand Teton and up to Bayfield on Lake Superior about a 6000 mile round trip. Numerous trips to Florida, Maine etc. We use a 3/4 ton Chevy with a Duramax Allison transmission combo. Some might see a 3/4 ton pickup with a diesel as an over kill. But the extra engine braking, electric over hydraulic brakes and a truck that weighs more than the boat made for relaxed towing and having plenty of punch to pass the Slowski's on two lane roads while pulling the boat. We get anywhere from 11 to 17 mpg pulling the boat. A lot better than our gas v-8 powered 1/2 ton former pickup. No issues with cross winds and semi's. What was really nice is when we decided to go with a Ranger R-27 our current truck will pull it just fine. We don't use our truck as a daily driver. I use an 07 Honda Civic for my daily beater. That keeps the mileage on the truck down. We have less than 60 k on an 09 truck and I think the truck do fine till the end of our boating days. So my advice is if you stay close to the porch anything will do. But if your intent is to travel and take advantage of everything this country has to offer. The G.M. Duramax certainly to us is a great road warrior. I think an 8' bed and the extended cab adds to the wheelbase and they track better and ride better. Besides you have plenty of room for all you stuff so you don't have to over load the boat while traveling. Just my opinion.
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Leon
Joined: 21 Nov 2011 Posts: 30 City/Region: Terrace
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2011
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Sea Nile
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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yes.......a big truck would work great to just tow the boat, but over 99% of the time it will just be hauling me around. I like to be able to get into smaller parking spots, going to haul firewood, move that odd fridge and stove, haul some grocerys.......and with that would like a truck I don't need a ladder to get into the back of the truck. I had a 3/4 ford standard pickup to haul my last home built 18ft boat with, then I got an automatic ford ranger, way way easier to back up the boat with the ranger. Easier to haul firewood, had to make more trips, but that was all in the fun. So still leaning towards the little Tacoma pickup...... |
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Bluez Cruz
Joined: 14 Nov 2014 Posts: 12 City/Region: Philomath
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Noro Lim
Photos: Noro Lim
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:08 am Post subject: |
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I'll second the notion of E/hydraulic. We also tow with a Toyota Sequoia (2005) 6400lb max tow rating. It handles and tows fine but I couldn't imagine not having the e/hy brake system. Prime example was a very slick ramp at low tide in Newport Oregon. Backing down that snot with our 23' Cape Cruiser fully loaded would have been down right scary (no vehicle weight to counter ramp angle and lack of traction). Plus I like being able to stomp the breaks and have the boat unload like my drift boat _________________ Noah
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