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cgypsy
Joined: 02 Mar 2015
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City/Region: Vancouver Island
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 1999
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C Gypsy
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 Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:04 am Post subject: Swim Grid - Reboarding Ladder |
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I am new to the forum and so far do not have a boat. But, the question I will be asking when looking for one is "How do I get back on board the boat if I fall off?"
How can I install a swim grid or re-boarding ladder?
I know many people carry a ladder that they put over the side of the boat to get on and off - BUT - What if I fell off and ladder wasn't hanging over the edge?
I would like a swim grid/ladder that would make getting in and out of the boat into the water or kayak EASY.
Any suggestions? Has anyone added one to their 22' cruiser? |
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Aurelia
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
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City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
State or Province: AZ
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: "Wild Blue" (sold 9/14)
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| Edit: Greg's post at about the same time as mine, covers it better. |
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cgypsy
Joined: 02 Mar 2015
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City/Region: Vancouver Island
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C-Dory Year: 1999
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C Gypsy
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Aurelia wrote: | | Our boat has the standard bolt-on step and this unit is the same on a 22 model as well. It was simple to install after I took off the kicker engine. |
Greg
That looks like exactly what I need, but why did you take the kicker off? Could the step have gone on the other side of the main motor?
Is it possible to have a motor, a kicker, and swim step on a 22' cruiser?
I would still need to have a kicker or twin motors? |
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NewMoon
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City/Region: Holladay
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C-Dory Year: 1991
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Cindy Sea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:07 am Post subject: |
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We added the factory swim step and a ladder on the port side of our 22 Cruiser, and moved the 9.9 kicker to starboard. Worked fine.
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Aurelia
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:08 am Post subject: |
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The kicker was too big for our needs so I took it off and placed the swim step there. We added a small mounting bracket and Torqeedo electric outboard for our non-fishing kicking purposes to the other side of the motor. The swim step could go on either side but the original holes were already there (4200 filled) so I re-used them instead of drilling new ones. We didn't care which side it was on. Kicker, motor, step combos are common and you just have to work out the mounting and spacing for your particular main and kicker motor dimensions.
For info on our alternative kicker, go to this thread:
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=21064&start=30&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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Jazzmanic
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| Island Explorer wrote: | | Aurelia wrote: | | Our boat has the standard bolt-on step and this unit is the same on a 22 model as well. It was simple to install after I took off the kicker engine. |
Greg
That looks like exactly what I need, but why did you take the kicker off? Could the step have gone on the other side of the main motor?
Is it possible to have a motor, a kicker, and swim step on a 22' cruiser?
I would still need to have a kicker or twin motors? |
It's pretty standard on CD-22's to have a main, kicker and swims step. That's how ours was set up when we bought new from the factory in 2005. It works great. Some people prefer that the kicker is mounted on the starboard side of the transom unlike ours which is mounted port, mainly due to the additional swing room for the tiller on the kicker. But that hasn't been a problem for us as we use a tie bar 99% of the time, allowing steering from the helm. Even so, we've used the kicker steering with the tiller for a 10 mile (at least), trip from Bellingham Bay to Twin Bridges.
Dave S. installed a swim step on his boat Sea Shift which has twins so it can definitely be done.
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cgypsy
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City/Region: Vancouver Island
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| Those are good suggestions. I never thought about which side the kicker was on, but you are right about having better access to the tiller. |
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Jazzmanic
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| Island Explorer wrote: | | Those are good suggestions. I never thought about which side the kicker was on, but you are right about having better access to the tiller. |
The reasoning by the factory to install the kicker on the port side of C-Dancer was to off-set the weight of the batteries which are installed in the starboard lazerette. |
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smckean (Tosca)
Joined: 18 Jan 2014
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Tosca
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Aurelia,
I have an off-topic question for you. In one of your photos above it looks like you may have a VersaTube (or similar) 3-sided metal boat house to which you've attached a sort of "tarp curtain" to close (or semi-close) the front opening.
Am I right, or am I reading something into the photo that's isn't there? I ask because I have just such a boat house, and I am considering ways to give more protection for the open 4th wall. |
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RobLL
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| This summer during swimming season on Lake Washington or Union we intend to have all the family practice boarding from the water using swimming platform and ladder. |
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ghone
Joined: 13 Aug 2008
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City/Region: Nanaimo
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| We use a Garelick brand ladder. It's stored in the cockpit most of the time and the BBQ mounts to it. When anchored we pop the BBQ off and put the ladder to the overboard position. Helps with dinghy entry as well as swimmer recovery. We elected to not have a swim grid as a camperback was planned as well as our indispensable splash well table. Our transom just has a single o/b on it. Batteries on hull inside between fuel tanks. Good luck on the search. George |
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Aurelia
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Tosca, I will send you a pm about the boatshed tarp options tonight. Greg |
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cgypsy
Joined: 02 Mar 2015
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City/Region: Vancouver Island
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C-Dory Year: 1999
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Jazzmanic wrote: |
It's pretty standard on CD-22's to have a main, kicker and swims step. That's how ours was set up when we bought new from the factory in 2005. It works great. Some people prefer that the kicker is mounted on the starboard side of the transom unlike ours which is mounted port, mainly due to the additional swing room for the tiller on the kicker. |
Yea, there are so many details. I think I would want the swim step on the right hand side along with an additional grab bar mounted to the transom. That way, I would have something to grab onto when I climbed up. (as we get older this stuff becomes more important). Because I am right handed it would seem easier to have that handle on the right side of the swim step.
Obviously I can see there are lot of choices and I will have to decide what seems right for the boat I get. I've only seen a couple of C-Dory's up close and neither had a swim step.
I am surprised that they don't seem to get in the way of the motor turning. To me it just seemed like it would crowded back there. |
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Aurelia
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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The main motor doesn't turn quite as far as it looks like it would. Crowded yes, problem no. Add in a permatrim, trim tabs, transducers and it gets even more interesting.
Greg |
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