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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20808 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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I am impressed by team Elsie Piddock in the F 25C--about 50 miles ahead of the competition, and thru Seymour Narrows! Pretty talented crew--and the 6x Van Isle 360 experience seems to be paying off!
Here is the "resume":
Former USCG Officer
2 X Annapolis Newport- Bermuda Race
3 X Singlehanded Transpac
3X Pacific Cup
5X Hawaii to Seattle delivery
6X Van Isle 360
I noted that several of the teams (including soggy Beavers) spent a fair amount of time on the beach (no progress thru the water), got under way, and now is back on the beach. Hopefully there are no serious issues, either with people of the boat. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20808 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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A good place to get more "news" is sailing anarchy.:
http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=159707&page=7
Also : http://48north.com/r2ak_reports.php?report_num=4
The Cat Turn point and Proa Pure and Wild have both dropped out of the race. The Proa team felt that they didn't have enough time to sort out the issues with the boat--items were breaking, they felt that 3 crew would have been better, since it took 2 to sail the boat, and with only two --no rest.
One of the sailors on Sailing Arnachy made a very interesting point. That these low budge extreme events are the new frontier of boating. Include in this the WaterTribe Everglades Challenge. The sport of one design or offshore racing has become so expensive, that participants are dropping out. For example the Newport to Enseneda race used to have a limit of 500 entrants. Nowadays 200 entrants is a struggle. |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Bob, and thanks for those links.
I watched Team Elsie Piddock go through Seymour at 29 hours into the race. They are screaming -- but the race is not over. Sorry to see Proa Pure and Wild drop out. They are not the first to make that choice for one reason or another.
I also noticed that there were several boats showing 0 speed for a while. Thinking, (hoping it was tide and wind conditions) not injury or equipment failure that put them their for strategy not rescue.
Is Water Tribe going to re-run do you think? The last I saw on that the USCG shut it down due to too many rescues.
On another line, USCG got credit for picking up the survivor of a capsize. some reporter really didn't have their facts down. It was a USCG Aux that had the tri under tow, and the Sheriff's Marine Patrol picked him off the Tri before it turned over.
Enjoy this, It isn't going to last long.
Harvey
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olsurfdog
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 179 City/Region: Carmel Valley
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, thank you for the links. Bob!
Now have the charts out and following the race and coments of those more knowledgable of the area than I. Good stuff and great fun, much more stoked by this than the Americas Cup last year! Wish I was younger and could be there! As a outrigger canoe racer I'm patriicularly interested in the progress of Team Soggy Beaver(??). They're doing well to this point but to get proper speed out the canoe they need the full crew and getting rest becomes an issue. 2-3 knots is going to be the speed with only three or four paddlers working. Sailing with 3 people so at least one can be resting most of the time seems to be working well for the leaders. _________________ Michael
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20808 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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olsurfdog (By the way, I had a black lab which loved to body surf with me, and then she learned to wind surf, lying on the board while I sailed it…) I used to be a dory rower--but those guys are out…The soggy beavers have a lot of fortitude. There is a lot of strategy involved. The trimaran which is ahead, had done the Van Isle race 6 times. So they have a lot of experience on the first half of the race. They are also a group of three very talented sailors!
Incidently the Van Isle Race just lapped some of the second and 3rd place boats in the Race to Alaska.
Team Elsie Poddick, F25c, is only a few miles from Bella Bella--and she is way ahead by almost 90 miles by a series of straight lines, not counting tacking--well over 100 miles counting tacks, and detours for rocks and Islands. The second place boat is a Hobie 33 monohull.
I agree with you, that this is a great race--just wish there were more photos (some over on Sailing Anarachy). I find myself checking every few hours, and figuring out which way I would have gone. |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Sorry I have been missing out today. Kind of did my own marathon type thing. Should have some time to get back with it tomorrow.
The 48" North link is a good one with sat phone connection to several of the race boats. I agree, this one is so much more fun than the America's Cup. It would be really great to be able to see more pix, and other info besides just the position, direction and speed. (Goals for next year -- IF)
Harvey
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AstoriaDave
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps of interest to some is the saga of two R2AK sailors aboard a trimaran caught in these severe winds who were forced to abandon their vessel and call for a rescue. I believe the stretch of water off the mouth of the Fraser River (one of the mouths, anyway), may be familiar to many who have transited Georgia Strait.
http://smallcraftadvisor.com/our-blog/?p=4448 _________________ Dave Kruger
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ghone
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately these races get both experienced and inexperienced entrants.
We have had a week solid of strong winds out of the NW
Local knowledge says AVOID as in stay away from the lee shore that is the mainland and upon penalty of disaster avoid Sandheads!!!!
Huge volumes of water out of the Fraser meet 25 knots of westerly and you are going to not enjoy your day! We had a race in the '70's that had 1/4 ton IOR boats in 50 knots and 30 ft seas at Sandheads, they didn't stop surfing till the got upriver to New Westminster
Sailors know to keep to windward, that means HUG the Island get in tight and beat to windward tack when seas too big
The lead few boats did that, Elsie Piddock was/is superbly sailed and will be the benchmark for future R2AK they are going like a train (10 knots )outside will likey finish Saturday if not before, outstanding seamanship!
We will see more multi's in future
George |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20808 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Very well said George! My bet is some time before sunset on Friday. She is about 150 nautical miles from Ketchikan currently. The wind will shift more to the North, so there are some tacks. Also the wind profile shows some lighter airs, and even a couple of holes later today, and tomorrow. I still think she can make the distance tomorrow. I agree that this will be a record.
Also superb is the navigation. Look at the minefield at the entrance to Hunter Channel she traversed on the way to waypoint Bella Bella. We always went inside of Calvert Island, inside of Hunter Island, and then into Lama Channel.
It is so easy being an "arm chair sailor". But I would have had a multihull class, a monohull class, and a rowing/padling/sail assist class. OK no glamor of the $10,000 first to finish! Also I would have the boats using DeLorme Inreach which allows 160 character messages, and we would have much better updates from the boats. |
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olsurfdog
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 179 City/Region: Carmel Valley
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Good thoughts ,Bob--I was thinking 2 divisions but at least three would be better. I don't know much about tracking systems, be nice to have some commentary from entrants if and when they could though.
Getting this race together was a big project- if they do another I'm sure they will do even better. I'm still lovin following along and reading all the coments I can find. Hope there is future for the race! |
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RobLL
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Another way to divvy into two or three classes: Racers and Entrants. A lot of people would just want to do the course, or part of it, Their fees would help with support costs. This could be an annual or every other year thing.
The STP (Seattle to Portland bicycle event) is a Sat-Sun run, really serious bikers may do it in one day, most 2. The house we are about to sell was along the course, we generally put up 2-8 people - it was a lot of fun. |
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thataway
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Elsie Piddock is in Alaska waters, with less than 50 miles to do. Still doing 6.8 knots, so there is still enough wind to move. I suspect that she will slow down when closing on the finish, between the Islands. Still a lot of races within the race, but it looks as if EP will take home the cash, and most likely the Hobie 33 the steak knives (second place).
Some really magnificent boating! |
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dotnmarty
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AstoriaDave
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thataway
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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EP is in the East end of Tongass Narrows--somewhere about 4 miles to finish line. The tracker map is down at this minute, but there is a web cam at the finish line:
http://webcamketchikan.com/mega-view-cam-6/
Guys who are at the finish line say they can see EP in the Narrows. |
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