Anchor Rehash -- New Anchor – Vulcan

thataway · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:26 am Post subject:

I have had bumps with my Boss, and am putting on a "Scuff Guard" SS bow protector, just under the hull to deck joint, down to the first "strake" on the hull.

Robert H. Wilkinson · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:43 am Post subject:

hardee · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:28 pm Post subject:

hardee · Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:05 pm Post subject:

thataway · Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:00 pm Post subject:

Will do, am recovering (I hope) from more back problems. and gel coated the "dings" today. I will sand and fair the gel coat in the am, and apply the "Skuff Buster" on line.

I had asked Jay what he used--and this is what. It is 22 gauge 304 SS, with 3M pressure sensitive adhesive on the back. It is pre cut, and supposedly has some line for the bend.

I'll post photos (hopefully tomorrow). My plan is to prebend it, with a 5/8" dowel for the "radius". I will pencil the line where it will come, and then mass with blue tape, putting a small bead of 5200 around the edges. They say to use a rubber mallet to work the metal to any contour.

Hunkydory · Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:29 pm Post subject:

hardee · Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:13 am Post subject:

Thanks for that photo and link. That may be what i need to do, although I don't much like that it is 304 Stainless instead of 316. I have some 304 on the boat already and I hate the way it stains and rusts.

Great idea, Jay. Do you have to buff and polish that stainless to keep it from looking rusted.

Thanks again,

Harvey
SleepyC Moon

thataway · Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:42 pm Post subject:

Thanks to Jay for posting his, and the link. I bought just one XL,

Hardy is right, that 304 may show more corrosion than the 316, which has 2 to 3 percent molybdenum added, to give it more resistance to Cl ion.

With good 304, the staining should not be excessive, and I believe that mine will get scuffed up--and when I clean it with one of the phosphoric acids, it will then become a duller finish, but doubt that I will have any streaks of rust....Depends on where the Stainless is made.

Here is my thread on installing the Scuff Buster--as you see I did it differently than Jay. But, Jay's is "Bigger than mine!" Mine is 10#, Jay's is about 25#! Because of this, I have not gotten any dings lower down--if I do, then I'll add more pieces.

My installation:
http://www.c-brats.com/albums/Thataway/DSC00769_001.sized.jpg

Hunkydory · Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:11 pm Post subject:

bridma · Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:37 pm Post subject:

I think a bow protector is a good idea. I can see it being really beneficial for those of you recovering by a windlass from the cabin. I haul in by hand, but then my anchor is only a 15 lb Manson Supreme, easy to recover. When recovering and I'm down to the last 6 feet coming in, I make sure the anchor is 'lined up' and coming in away from the gel coat. I have never dinged the bow yet.

Martin.

thataway · Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:16 pm Post subject:

I agree with Martin. I never dinged up gel coat pulling by hand (and the reason I have a bad back....)--some windlasses and anchors, no issue--other can be a major issue. Windlass brings an anchor in fairly quickly--and you have to have the 3rd generation anchors lined up properly. From inside the cabin, it is hard to know exactly where you are on the chain--some paint on the last 3 feet helps a lot to know when you are close to the anchor.

Chester · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:04 pm Post subject:

Any updates or reports on the Vulcan anchor?
I'm wondering how it rides on the bow roller.
Fisheries Supply has them on sale and I am weak.

hardee · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:19 pm Post subject:

Chester,

I wound up putting on a Vulcan and then because of the big curved shank I switched to a Rocna9, due to clearance when raising and angle of holding in the launcher roller. The Rocna gave excellent results last year. It launches and retrieves in the roller with ease, and did not drag one time out of 60 nights at anchor over the summer. It held in sand, mud, and rocky bottoms, and only gave me a couple of times of not hooking up due to thick kelp. I had one incidence where I retrieve a big metal framework of some sort. That issue was relieved with some head scratching and some extra line.

The Rocna9 is a bit smaller than the Vulcan, the "hoop" is not obtrusive, and I was very pleased with the result. As you can tell from the previous posts in this (and other ) anchoring thread, I am a fan of practical physics, and the spade or scoop is much more logical than the plow shape for a holding anchor.

Harvey
SleepyC Moon

Aurelia · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:25 pm Post subject:

We have over 30 nights anchored on our 4KG Rocna which is interestingly only half the weight of Harvey's and have also had no problems on various bottom types and slopes. I think we have 35ft of 1/4 chain which is also half of Harvey's.

We have used mostly claw types in the past and they did not work as consistently for us in the NW.

Love it!

Greg

thataway · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:12 pm Post subject:

Greg,
I had assumed that Harvey was using the 4 KG Rocna, since there is no 9 KG Rocna, and the 4KG is listed as 9 lbs. This anchor has a surface area of 71 sq inches. (There is a Vulcan 9KG--and that is 20#--I was under the impression that Harvey had taken the Vulcan back?)

I did a rough surface area on my 10# Boss, and it is about 81 sq inches. We had it drag a few feet in some 50 knot + beam wind--but I suspect was just burying deeper.

In any case, the Rocna 4 and the Boss 4.5 (10#) are both on lower limit in size for a 19 or 22, but seem to be holding better than many of the traditional anchors. I still would recommend the one size larger for most C Dory 22 owners. I feel more comfortable with the Boss 10# than a Delta Quick Set 14#.