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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:49 am Post subject: |
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For docking, and yes I believe it has to do with increased safety, I prep the boat prior to getting to the dock..... like maybe outside the marina. fenders midship and stern are over the side and ready. Bow fender is released from the cockpit and will usually lie on the combing/side deck until I rock it into the water on the dock approach. Docking lines: bow line is already tied on the bow cleat and runs along the side to the aft cabin hand-grip rail, and tied at the ready (a slip type knot that allows me to take the end of the line and carry it to the dock,) and then the stern line is already cleated, and laying in the gunnel box.
On arriving at the dock it is simple to touch revers for a second to take way off, or depending, step off the boat and onto the dock with both lines in hand, dropping the stern line over the cleat, snubbing it, and then walk forward to catch the forward dock cleat, with a quick snubbing wrap. When all is stopped and positioned properly, the final tie is done.
I have to agree with rogerbum. ABSOLUTLY I need to go over adverse situations in my head, with a pre-plan for IF something goes bad, what is the best way out.
Harvey
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Robert H. Wilkinson
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Tim, another thing is those poles that you attach a dock line to. You can reach out the pole and it releases the loop of your dock line over a cleat. I've never used one but according to the people selling them at the boat shows, they are the best thing ever!!
I think somebody may have started a thread about them here as well.
Anybody tried them??
Rob _________________ Talk to me and I will listen-- but if its not about boats or fishing all I will hear is bla,bla,bla,yada,yada,zzzzzzzz |
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1521 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:22 am Post subject: |
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RobLL wrote: | "Common sense" can mean many things, and is not all that useful a term. SNIP |
Of course, "common sense" is relative*, but then, what isn't?
*Common sense to a beginner is much different than common sense to someone
with decades of experience.
Aye. _________________ "I don't want any cake" - said no one ever.
If someone tells you they don't eat cake, unfriend them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life. |
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Kushtaka
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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So now this is a single hand docking thread? I guess it's sort of still on topic, and let's face it, if it's not, so what?
Before you single hand dock any boat for the first time you should do one thing first, and that is go into open water and operate the boat slowly in forward and reverse with the helm hard over. Note the pivot point of the boat. When operating in forward your pivot point will usually be just in front of your helm, and in reverse, it will be just behind the cabin. So you can't simply correct a forward movement by the exact opposite reverse control input.
Many people, both beginners and experienced boaters alike have an "ah-ha" moment when the difference in pivot point is shown to them, and their docking immediately improves.
There is also a widely held conventional belief that bow into the wind is the best way to do things for control, but your boat weathervanes to put your stern somewhat into the wind. If docking into the wind bow first isn't working, try backing in.
Finally, if you can't get into your slip, you can come up alongside the end of your dock (if neighboring boats don't stick out too far from the end of their slips), tie a spring line off to your cleat at the end of the dock (where you attach on your boat sort of depends) then power on that spring line into you slip. If it's really blowing, I'll leave my boat under power, get on the dock, and finish tying her up before I take power off.
Sorry if this is confusing. It would be easier to show you. |
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RobLL
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Actually this is very helpful advice for those of us anticipating boating solo. As well some guests and/or spouses really don't want to get involved. |
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Foggy
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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In my Wellcraft High Performance Boot Camp course, we used multiple empty milk
jugs on an anchor tether in open water to simulate docking and do other slow
maneuvers, like turning in narrow channels, to get the feel of an unfamiliar boat at
idle speeds.
Keep in mind, it's usually only the first good "ding" in a new boat that bothers you.
Aye. |
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AstoriaDave
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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A very good discussion. Taking those pieces which apply to you, setting gear in place, and then running through some practice emergencies will give you a world of confidence.
However, settle on a location for each item and then don't move it willy nilly. When the deal goes down, you want to have an almost reflexive reaction reaching for items like the fire extinguishers, boat hook, anchor setup, PFD, knife, panic button on the DSC-VHF, spare line, throwable life cushion, etc., etc.
A fire extinguisher is no good unless it is accessible from a safe place, facing the fire, your back to safety. Enclosed spaces probably need a break the window tool adjacent to the extinguisher.
It takes a while to work your way through the likely scenarios, and it also helps a lot to have another experienced boater work his way through your choices, posing what if questions.
For a long time I ran a teaching lab for first year chemistry students, and thought I had it nailed ... until the local fire marshal and a couple firemen inspected it. Several changes resulted. One of those changes saved the building when a volatile chemical caught fire one evening as I was alone up there grading papers. Many thanks to the professionals at the Astoria Fire Department, circa 1992. _________________ Dave Kruger
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Foggy
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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AstoriaDave wrote: | SNIP ... have an almost reflexive reaction reaching for items...SNIP |
That sounds good, but... To perform a psychomotor skill "mindlessly", requires
practicing (aka 'mastering') it about 10K times.
Now, how many items, exactly, do you have that you want to have in your
reflexive repertoire?
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Chris Bulovsky
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Things that get people in trouble usually not just one thing but a culmination of many little things. With boats and cars Alcohol plays a role for many poor decisions and most drowning's..... avoid it when boating. Mostly I comply with that philosophy but cocktail's and sand beaches seem to complement each other. That being said a solo outing is no time be screwing with your judgment. |
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hardee
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:46 am Post subject: |
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Chris Bulovsky wrote: | Things that get people in trouble usually not just one thing but a culmination of many little things. With boats and cars Alcohol plays a role for many poor decisions and most drowning's..... avoid it when boating. Mostly I comply with that philosophy but cocktail's and sand beaches seem to complement each other. That being said a solo outing is no time be screwing with your judgment. |
Chris. That is a very good point. Since I don't drink alcohol, and none comes on the boat, I don't think to add it to my list -- but you are right. Mixing ETOH and boating is just setting oneself up for a bad experience.
Harvey
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Foggy
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:22 am Post subject: |
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I feel sorry for people who don't drink.
Think about it.
When they get up in the morning, that's
the best they are going to feel all day.
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hardee
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Well, just for fun, let's see:
Don't wake up with a headache
Don't have all those bottles and cans to take care of
Don't have to figure out the difference between buzzed and ......
Can remember what I did last night
I guess you pay your money and you take your chances
Thanks for your sympathy
Harvey
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Lost Petrel
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Yep, after 10 years of not drinking, my day still improves, it just starts from a much better place.
Of course the level of drama has slipped a little. _________________ Tim
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colbysmith
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I hate the flu. Never could figure out why any one would want to self induce a flu like feeling. Of course no excuse for acting stupid either. Nothing wrong with a beverage now and then with your meal though! |
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hardee
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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My apologies to my friends who do enjoy a bit on occasion, and who use in moderation. My remarks sound like everyone who drinks at all, uses more than moderately, so to set the record straight, I know there are those who are careful, and there can be some rational for etoh consumption for health reasons, HOWEVER, I was thinking along the line of alcohol and safety as not a good mix.
Harvey
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