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afglobemaster
Joined: 19 Apr 2014 Posts: 25 City/Region: Port St Joe
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Sienna by the Sea
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:35 pm Post subject: 2004 C Dory Cruiser 22 Price Advise |
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Hey guys, new to the forum, but looking for some advice on an opportunity to purchase a pristine 2004 C Dory 22 Cruiser. Overall the boat is in great condition with little use. I'm trying to gauge what a "good deal" on this boat would be? I like the idea of the of a C Dory, but not positive my wife will adapt to this type of boat With that, I need some wiggle room if I need to sell it in again 1-2 years and not lose much money. I'm also nervous about trying to sell a 12 year old boat at that point.
I've referenced NADA and read the related posts on the subject, but what would you guys be willing to pay for a Cruiser with the extras below?
Any advise is appreciated...Thanks!
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-Engine is a 2008 Honda 90 w/ 94 hours
-Coleman A/C unit on top of cabin
-Honda 2000i generator included
-Raymarine C80
-Lenco Trim Tabs
-Double axle loadrite galvanized trailer |
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dotnmarty
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 4196 City/Region: Sammamish
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: LIZZIE II
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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What are they asking? NADA pricing is probably way below what these boats sell for. You should look at the boats for sale at the bottom right corner of the C-Brats home page. That low hours Honda is probably fuel injected, which is a good thing. Off the top of my head, with the trim tabs, A/C and double axle trailer I would guess that somewhere in the middle 30's would be a fair price. But, that just a casual guess. _________________ MartyP
"...we're all in the same boat..." |
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redbaronace
Joined: 29 Aug 2012 Posts: 581 City/Region: Puget Sound
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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I would say at least $30,000. |
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2768 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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My guess is the seller should be asking above $40,000. Check asking prices in those that are currently offered, and those that have previously sold.
See the marketplace area in the forums. _________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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potter water
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1076 City/Region: Logan
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 1997
C-Dory Model: R-21 Tug
Vessel Name: Poopsy
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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You will get little action at 40 grand. 35 or so may be about right for a starting position. Of course, it will depend on how much you are into the boat for and condition, now and a year or two from now. _________________ You can tell a man his wife is ugly, but never ever criticize his dog, his gun, his truck or his boat.
Never let ignorance interfere with an opportunity to state a knowledgeable opinion
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1997 Ranger Tug 21 Classic 2016
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Sunbeam
Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 3990 City/Region: Out 'n' About
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C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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I would take a look at the "Marketplace" section. This is a sub-forum in the same area as the current boats for sale, but shows boats that have sold (or at least were previously listed). So there are many more examples than there are in the current ads. There is no selling price shown (only asking), but it's not too hard to read between the lines to see which boats were attractively priced.
I would never go into a boat purchase expecting to be able to come out "ahead" (or even to break even) if I decided to re-sell. Sure, there is the occasional lucky deal, wherein you can sell later for a profit, but in general a boat is an expenditure (and or a money pit, depending on your point of view!). Personally, I would go for a boat you like and think you have a good chance of enjoying (as I think that is where a boat really "pays you back" -- in enjoyment and experiences), and just plan to lose some money if you decide to re-sell. Don't make a "stupid" purchase and that amount will likely not be huge (but conversely, don't hold out for a profit-making deal; even though they do come up from time-to-time, it's rare, and you generally either just happen to luck out, or you spend a long time to find one, and time can be valuable as well).
That's my view anyway. |
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bridma
Joined: 13 Sep 2011 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Comox
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Nomad
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Would not surprise me if the seller asks 38k, when he is looking for 35k plus.
Martin. |
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afglobemaster
Joined: 19 Apr 2014 Posts: 25 City/Region: Port St Joe
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Sienna by the Sea
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all of the inputs everyone. I'm moving forward on the boat for a sales price of $27,500. Hopefully I have enough fluff built in if it doesn't work out for me and my family, and have to sell in a couple years.
Thanks again for the advice. Look forward to interacting more with everyone once I'm a proud C-Dory owner! |
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DuckDogTitus
Joined: 31 Jan 2013 Posts: 1034 City/Region: Gig Harbor
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1988
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Miner
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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afglobemaster wrote: | Thanks for all of the inputs everyone. I'm moving forward on the boat for a sales price of $27,500. Hopefully I have enough fluff built in if it doesn't work out for me and my family, and have to sell in a couple years.
Thanks again for the advice. Look forward to interacting more with everyone once I'm a proud C-Dory owner!
Extras
-Engine is a 2008 Honda 90 w/ 94 hours
-Coleman A/C unit on top of cabin
-Honda 2000i generator included
-Raymarine C80
-Lenco Trim Tabs
-Double axle loadrite galvanized trailer |
consider the tandem axle and other accessories I don't think you'll have any trouble unloading the boat in 2 years at a price equal to or higher than your price depending on where you're located. $27.5k sounds quite fair. any other accessories you add (downriggers, custom cover, etc) will just cement the price in place. _________________ Dustin |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20779 City/Region: Pensacola
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C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Even if there are no other electronics, $27,500 is a smoking deal on that boat. The engine is injected with the larger alternator. Generally that combo would be in the 35 to 38 K range--depending on what other options are available. The engine alone is worth 10K.
Welcome to the C Brats! _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
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Sunbeam
Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 3990 City/Region: Out 'n' About
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C-Dory Year: 2002
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Agreed - if the boat is pristine (as described) and given the other features, you have found one of those rare "steals" right off the bat (wherein a person either is not aware of the typical values, or for some reason just likes to sell things for less than the usual amount). Now you will have the problem of "having" to hang onto it when you know you could make a cool profit by selling
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shellndanm
Joined: 09 Oct 2013 Posts: 39 City/Region: Chesterfield
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Linda M
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:45 pm Post subject: 22 |
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Even though it appears to be a good deal get a survey. I bought my 2005 boat from an 84 year old guy who always kept the boat covered. I figured survey wasn't needed, particularly since I got a good deal. However when the boat was washed etc, water accumulated under the tank and rotted out part of the deck core. Good luck. |
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DuckDogTitus
Joined: 31 Jan 2013 Posts: 1034 City/Region: Gig Harbor
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1988
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Miner
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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be sure to post pictures of your new toy when you take possession
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afglobemaster
Joined: 19 Apr 2014 Posts: 25 City/Region: Port St Joe
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Sienna by the Sea
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hey guys, slight issue on my purchase. Despite the owner being convinced the motor is a 2008, I cross checked the serial number and it's actually a 2004 that's carborated, instead of fuel injected. Still less than 100 hours, but I'm nervous now about the $27,500 price we agreed on based on a motor 4 years newer...
Pros vs Cons of carborated/older motor?
Less desirable re-sale wise with this motor?
Feel like I should renegotiate or walk away from the deal. If the owner is confused about an important detail like that, what other misinformation could I be getting... |
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Aurelia
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 2331 City/Region: Gig Harbor
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Still sounds like a pretty good price but that is a bummer. The older Carbed motor is still a very good one and worth owning for sure but they don't start quite the same. Being 2014, that 2004 motor might need a bit of tlc no matter how low the hours and could use an impeller etc... Knock 500 off the price to pay for a basic tuneup on the older unit.
That's what I would do but I have owned enough carbed motors to trust them more than the average buyer these days.
Still long for a lighter motor though..... _________________ Greg, Cindie & Aven
Gig Harbor
Aurelia - 25 Cruiser sold 2012
Ari - 19 Cruiser sold 2023
currently exploring with "Lia", 17 ft Bullfrog Supersport Pilothouse |
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