09/20 - Lake Powell 2014 Gathering

Roger P. · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:51 pm Post subject:

Hi Chris,

My name is Roger Pelz - '85 C-Dory Angler - Sunrunner. I live in the Sacramento, CA area and would like to meet you in Wahweap on Sep. 19th and follow you up to Oak Canyon.

Coming along with me is a good friend, Vic Mershon who will be on a 26' motorsailor with one person on his crew (at the moment I am singlehanding).

This is my first trip to Lake Powell and I am really looking forward to it. Do you have a list of stops after Oak Canyon? If you do - do you have lat/long waypoints for them? Will there be an opportunity to get fuel during the trip?

Also, could I get a cell phone number for you so that I can get in touch with you as we approach Wahweap on the 19th? My cell phone is 916/208-6624.

I have checked out all I could find on C-Brats about previous trips but would appreciate any information on this trip that you could send me.

Regards - Roger Pelz -- Email = rdpelz932@att.net

Pat Anderson · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:16 pm Post subject:

OK, our plans are changing! We are interested to find out when other folks are planning on arriving at Lake Powell, so we could potentially hook up! We will be launching at Bullfrog. We were originally planning on heading out on the road September 9 but now our dates look like they are getting pushed back a bit, potentially from a little to a lot! We are planning on being on the lake three weeks more or less but with no fixed schedule, other than making it to Oak Canyon. So what are YOUR plans?

Hunkydory · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:44 pm Post subject:

We will be leaving Yellowstone Lake some time around Sept 14th with a stop at home on the way to launch at Bullfrog around the 17th. Then plan to slowly cruise toward Oak Canyon during that & the next day. We both enjoy spending a couple days at Oak canyon before the Gathering. Following the gathering we will likely cruise with the others as they continue up to Forgotton Canyon & when the group heads back toward Walheap we will in a day or so load up back for home.

Pat Anderson · Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:42 am Post subject:

Look forward to seeing you there, Jay!

Wandering Sagebrush · Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:55 am Post subject: Additional South Utah Ramblings

Something to consider if you're going to spend any additional time in the Lake Powell - Southern Utah area, is picking up a copy of Photographing the Southwest, Volume One, by Laurent Martres. While it is oriented to photography, it provides some very detailed directions to really interesting natural formations, and to ancient dwellings and art from the ancient puebloan people in that region.

Here's a photo of a place called 'House on Fire' in the Cedar Mesa area between Bullfrog and Blanding.

This set of handprints is probably 700 to 800 years old. They are located right next to a major attraction in a national monument. There are a few kiva type structures and a lot of rock art at this site. We even found (and left) an ancient maize cob on the ground. What is interesting is that it is relatively unknown to most visitors.

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anchorout · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:18 am Post subject: PROPS FOR POWELL

A question for some of you who have been to Powell before: I have read that one must switch to a smaller prop, or a power prop to run in Powell if you are from the coast. What is the consensus?

Wandering Sagebrush · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:34 am Post subject: Re: PROPS FOR POWELL

Sunbeam · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:58 am Post subject: Re: PROPS FOR POWELL

thataway · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:04 pm Post subject:

We should be on the Lake somewhere between the 10th and 12th of Sept.

We run a 13" pitch (2" less than at sea level) on Powell, with a carved 90 hp Honda. Drop in pitch--not in diameter. You have about 3-4% loss of power per 1000 feet--so lets say at 3500 feet, you will have somewhere close to 12% loss of HP.

Chris · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:55 pm Post subject:

On the grocery issue...I agree with Sunbeam. Convenience store at best...and at the time of year we are there...tail end of the season...they are running their inventory down so pickings can be slim. I always recommend that folks provision for the duration before they leave the launch ramp.
Fuel is available at Wahweap...basically mile 0...at Dangling Rope at about mile 42...and at Bullfrog/Hall's Crossing at about mile 94.
The motorsailor might have some issues depending on draft...we beach our boats much of the time...and operate in very skinny water some of the time. If they bring a dingy along...should work out OK.
I am of the opinion that lat/long waypoints are of limited use on Lake Powell...the waterways are so convoluted that they won't do much good...I don't use them...so I don't have any for reference. Get the Stan Jones map...it will serve you well. If you have a plotter...and can get the map for the lake...it will be useful too.
Water levels are highly variable at Powell...and greatly influence beaches/campsites. We will not know where we will be until we get there! If you want to be with the group you need to stay with the group. If you separate from the group your chances of reconnecting are poor.
However...the general idea is to leave Oak Canyon on Sunday after the gathering and head for the Escalante river area (mile 6 Cool

for a day or two...then to Hall's Crossing for supplies (mile 94)...then to Forgotten Canyon (mile 106) for a day or two. This will probably be the furthest upstream canyon as we usually turn around here and head back downstream...visiting various canyons until we land back at Wahweap on Friday. Usually end up with about 300 miles total trip.

thataway · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:20 pm Post subject:

Roger G,
Your friend with the motor sailor (Macgreagor 26?) or Hess 26?. Should have no problem on the lake. The launching ramps may be shallow, and he might need a tongue extension, or cable for the trailer if the boat's draft is deep. The anchorages always seem to have deep places near the beaches where we anchor.

Lat and Lon, we have hundreds, but they are not good the next year, because of the changing lake levels. Go by river mile markers--and they are the guide posts. The Naviioncis app is great. Skipper app is based on the topo maps, and I have marked some of the anchorages, including Oak Creek Canyon on Active Captain--if you don't have Active Captain, get the free app!

Phones on the lake are sporadic. I have a Verizon phone which I activate only on Lake Powell, when I am in view of Navajo mountain--ATT & T is only good at State Line/Page area--and occasionally near Bull Frog.

We find that having enough food for 3 weeks on the lake is no problem, but the Admiral gets fish for every other day. Rice, beans, greens, cabbage all do well. Dry and dehydrated food last very well.

Sunbeam, can you elaborate on the lake being "closed". I was not aware that the lake was ever closed-but open year around.

We should be by there in 2 days, and drop the boat off. That will give some idea of what the lake level will be in Sept-but there was some hard rain in the last few days with high run off.

Sunbeam · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:33 pm Post subject:

Wandering Sagebrush · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:44 pm Post subject:

We are launching at Bullfrog this year, so the heavier staples will stay in the camper. We can replenish when we come back to that area to refuel. Hopefully, no government shutdown this year, otherwise it's catch as many striped bass as possible.

ssobol · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:58 pm Post subject:

The last time the government shut down people who live in the Lake Mead NRA on leased land had to leave their homes and could not return until the government reopened. One older woman had to live in her store in a nearby town until she could get back to her home.

maryvmcclain · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:32 am Post subject:

We really want to join this cruise... but won't be able to get to Powell until the 23rd or 24th. Do you think there is anyway to catch up with the group? Perhaps by launching somewhere else? I know phone service is minimal there so, unless someone has a SATphone, we wouldn't be able to call and find out where you are. Chris, any idea of the itinerary this year and where you might be right around then?

Thanks, Mary