New "snap in" fuel filter/water seperator

localboy

Interesting:

http://www.parker.com/portal/site/PARKER/menuitem.de7b26ee6a659c147cf26710237ad1ca/?vgnextoid=fcc9b5bbec622110VgnVCM10000032a71dacRCRD&vgnextfmt=default&vgnextdiv=687630&vgnextcatid=17060541&vgnextcat=MARINE+SNAPP+DISPOSABLE+FUEL+FILTER+WATER+SEPARATOR&Wtky=

Sunbeam · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:31 pm Post subject:

That does look interesting, and I associate Parker with quality fittings. I haven't even changed my Racor fuel/water separator yet, and I'm already dreading it! (From reading about others' experiences.)

If it worked well, I'd sure change. Thanks for pointing it out.

localboy · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:13 pm Post subject:

I have and on numerous attempts the filter was corroded onto the mount so badly, I ruined the mounts trying to remove the filter or have had to remove the entire unit so I would not ruin the mount. Our filter is mounted in the bilge and I am not as flexible or patient as I used to be. That's why this intrigued me. I got an email from Fisheries Supply that they were on sale.

http://www.fisheriessupply.com/racor-snapp-fuel-filter-water-separator?utm_source=Fisheries+Supply+Mailing+List&utm_campaign=88f4dab08d-WS_2014_ENGINES_Racor_Snap_Filter_03172014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_32a7fd0d23-88f4dab08d-71190689

I have to do more checking as it says it's only good up to 140hp and we have a 150. I don't see how it would matter but...

thataway · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:24 pm Post subject:

Here is the PDF which explains how this works--sort of…

http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_SNAPP-
Marine-Disposable-Fuel-Filter_-_RSL0154.pdf

The only problem is that it looks as if there is going to be a significant price to pay for the disposable complete unit (SNAPP) over just a cartridge. The SNAPP somewhere from $28.95 to over $50.00 vs a cartridge alone for the smaller filters at $8 to $12.

localboy · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:47 pm Post subject:

Yeah. More expensive. But time (and frustration) are worth money too.

Chester · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:52 pm Post subject:

Thw concept looks good but it is expensive and removing/reinstalling the fuel lines will be a pain.

localboy · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:58 pm Post subject:

I'm wondering if it can use snap off/on fittings? That would be ideal.

journey on · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:32 pm Post subject:

That's an interesting solution for Parkers/Racor filter element removal problem. Instead of fixing the gasket binding, they designed a whole new unit, which only costs 3 times as much (West Marine) or twice as much (Fisheries.) An elegant solution, which will increase their bottom line, since it does the same thing. I've been paying about $23 for a replacement element, WM has the snap in replacement for $64, Fisheries for $45.

Anyway, the brochure says that one can use Quick connect fittings 3/8 per sae j2044. I can't find any readily available, though the West Marine listing says that those fittings are included. That may account for the price differential.

The description says it's only good for 140 HP, but the flow rate rating is 23 GPH. If I ever saw that flow rate on Journey On, I'd shut down the motor and look for a leak. So I suppose it'd be acceptable for a 150 HP Honda.

Boris

redbaronace · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:19 pm Post subject:

I saw this 12 hours too late. Last night ordered the Racor 10 micron filter for the boat. I hope that when it arrives and I try to separate the filter from the housing that it comes off easily. Just from looking at it, there is a lot of corrosion at the base.

I might have given this a shot had I not ordered the filter already.

Dreamer · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:21 pm Post subject:

This looks like some sort of plastic to me. Using plastic parts and "snap on" fittings in an enclosed space where it can't be inspected seems to be asking for trouble. Just the humble opinion of a non-boat owner!

localboy · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:24 pm Post subject:

I agree Boris. But I have wrestled with, cussed at, swore at, thrown, kicked, pounded and cussed again at more oil/fuel filters than I care to imagine. Seems the oil filters come out a little easier. Last year I had the racor filter on the boat corroded so badly, I removed the entire unit from the boat, punched a big screwdriver thru it, put it in the vice and the damn thing STILL would not come apart. I ended up destroying the mount and had to replace it.

I've tried to remedy it by keeping the bilge open whenever possible in hopes of keeping it drier and I used a tiny amount of Anti-Seize on the threads. We'll see if it helped this spring when I replace it again prior to the season.

starcrafttom · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:08 pm Post subject:

I have a racon with a drain/inspection bowl. I always grease the gasket and spray the threads with anti corrosion. never have a problem changing the filter.

journey on · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:37 pm Post subject:

My problem isn't corrosion, it's the @#$% filter sticking to the bowl. I've been able to unscrew the filter from the upper housing AND THEN I rip the element apart, saw up the black plastic ring and separate the bowl from the filter (what's left of it.) Why the upper seal is OK and the lower one isn't remains a mystery to Parker/Racor I guess.

Their solution certainly is elegant but not the most cost effective for the consumer.

Boris