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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:41 pm    Post subject: Your favourite cooler Reply with quote

Do you carry a cooler onboard that you are really pleased with? Come across any duds?
After talking to Terry on Rock-C, the Coleman Ultimate Xtreme models are top of my list. The one I favour is the, Coleman 50qt Ultimate Xtreme Marine Wheeled Cooler, 29"L x 17"H x 12.5"W, approx $100. I think the dimensions would work well on a 22.
My next problem is the Admiral. We have kept lettuce, tomatoes, and cucumber in the bilge under the dining table for as long as 10 days and it was still edible. Being of English origin, I don't like my ale stored in a fridge (ruins the flavour in my humble opinion), but in the bilge it is closer to celler temp, 59 degrees, like the old country. So the Admiral says, what do we want a cooler for? Does she have a valid point? Or can you help me out with information that I can use, validating the purchase of a cooler?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Coleman Extreme and have had great success with it holding ice. it is not the wheeled kind, but it does have thick walls and a thick lid. Not the best latch in the world, but a bungee takes good care of that. It has held ice for 5-6 days, but I do put a cover on it.

Boating magazine did a cooler comparison last summer and the Coleman was the least expensive that held the ice the longest.

My boat came with two Igloo coolers, and so I have used others to compare to. They do not hold like the Coleman.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone bought a Yeti cooler? Are they worth the small fortune they cost?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had a big Igloo cooler on our C-Dory (more than 15 years ago). Could have been better, but not sure what better choices we had back then. This year I "invested" in a 75-qt Yeti. The idea was that with a decent load of ice it might keep fish (and bait) in good shape for a few days as we cruised/fished SE Alaska for the summer. It exceeded my expections - still held a good bit of ice after 7-8 days. And this was sitting out in the cockpit in the warmest sunniest summer in many SE Alaskan's memory.

It has great thick insulation, super sturdy build, and an excellent lid seal (sometimes I had to loosen the drain plug to break the vacuum before I could open the lid). Its top makes a fine fish cleaning table, at just the right height as it sits on our engine cover, and (after the fish cleaning residue is cleaned off) it makes a fine cockpit seat.

Our fridge is pretty small. The Yeti cooler made a significant difference in how much fish we could get from great remote fishing locations to a processor in fine shape to be vacuum packed and frozen to send home. I had worried that it would take up more space than it was worth, but it was such a good seat and cleaning table that I didn't mind the space tradeoff.

For us, well worth the investment.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have four of them a 75, 2-45's and a Roadie. They are very well built. At Powell this year I was there for 5 days and never added any ice. After I got home they still had ice in them for another 5 days after I got home. I will admit that I wasn't getting into them after I got home. I usually break the other coolers by standing on them, not a problem with the Yeti's. When you get them loaded they are heavy so I load them in the boat and they stay there for the trip. You could probably buy a lot of cheap coolers for a long time and throw them away when they break. If your are looking for a way to hold ice for a long time they work and they are bear proof.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:37 am    Post subject: Your favourite cooler Reply with quote

I saw a Coleman Extreme, Engel, and Yeti test. The Coleman was the best buy for the money. The Yeti and the Engel are pricey but in the test the Engel came out slightly better. We have pictures in our album doing an Igloo marine Engel side by side. We bought the 65 quart model Engel with an optional aluminum tray so things don't get water logged. I have a cushioned seat on top which is comfortable as a cockpit seat. The thing I liked was the hinge set up which is a 1/4 stainless steel rod and I think that both the Yeti and the Engel are built pretty tough. The Engel is lockable. As for ice keeping ability it depends a lot on the outside temperature. Blocks of ice hold up better. But for being able to get the most stuff packed in there we go with crushed. We buy box wine and remove the box and the bladder fits in there much better than bottles. I also try to find 8 ounce cans of beer as they fit in there better. Sometimes we freeze plastic milk jugs with water and then use the water when they thaw out. The Engel has done alright but for the cost I don't know if I would go that way again. Maybe a low voltage refridge / freezer in the cockpit but I worry about corrosion as we see a lot of salt water.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two Yeti coolers, the Roadie and a Tundra 35. I stand and cast on the 35 when I fish in my open boat. I don't have to worry about animals getting into them when camping, and they really do hold ice for long periods of time. I just returned from a road trip to Utah. I took frozen smoked salmon for the kids, and after 3 days on the road, it was still frozen when we arrived. I like um!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



150qt Rubbermaid with stainless hardware and freezer packs, it's da bomb!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need a cooler Martin! However they make a handy extra seat when visitors arrive for sundowners I used the Igloo 100 on wheels for 2 years. It's good for 3-4 days in summer Desolation sound and up to a week in springtime lake Powell. It froze things in Alberta in March! If you can keep veggies for 10 days and drink warmish beer you've got 'er made. Our fruit and a lot of veggies are in stackable bins under the galley. It's cool enough and they do well. Our downfall is my mate insists on cold Captain Morgan spiced rum at sundowner, (I like it too) and cold beer sometimes. The rum goes with fruit juice and Pepsi. Ice cubes too! (A Kerri On Swampwater). Looks like California Delta water. We need to keep that stuff cold. Oh and a bit of milk etc. some steaks, fish. since in the last 2 years, and about 16 months of that full time, I spent a small fortune buying ice. Some places don't sell block anymore. We could only get party ice. We had to leave a couple places as ice was getting low and we didn't want to spoil steaks or have the rum get warm! Horrors!! We just upgraded to a Waeco/Dometic cf50 that quite a few folks here recommend. Love it so far. For 2-3 week trips I wouldn't spend the dough. For us I think it will do well. I may need a bigger solar panel however. Oh the complexity of it all. Cheers. George

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We use both Coleman Extremes and a Yeti, depending on where we are going. The Yeti can handle dry ice, and is mostly bear proof when locked. I like the Yeti best.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a 65 quart Pelican cooler that is really amazing. Ice will still be ice after a week in this thing. Its great to not have to find and buy ice, while were camping. Its heavy and seemingly bombproof.


They also have a lifetime warranty and made in the U.S. I ordered it off amazon and at the time was half the cost of the comparable Yeti (also really nice!)

The fancy cooler is kind of a luxury item, but I'd buy another one for sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghone wrote:
Some places don't sell block anymore. We could only get party ice.


You've hit on a sore point with me. The virtually complete lack of real block ice available in the U.S. anymore (I'm sure some places must still have it, but they are few and far between in my experience). If you are "lucky" you find what I call "fake blocks," which are blocks comprised of a bunch of cubes frozen together to make a square shape. They still last better than bags of cubes, but nothing like real blocks.

I once had a discussion with an ice vendor who came to my place of employment, and we talked about the "fake blocks." He explained what it took to make them vs. the real ones, and of course it was quicker/cheaper to make the "fake" ones. I said yeah, but they don't last! (And they're not cheaper to buy; but I'd pay more for the real ones happily anyway.) Of course he insisted they last just as long, which made me think he had never tried them out for real. Sigh.

I'm loving my "nimble C-Dory stage of life" right now (which is currently U.S./Canada based) and don't want to trade it; but if there is one thing I remember fondly from foreign cruising, it's the ice plants Laughing Huge great rooms with gigantic blocks of clear, hard ice. What size block do you want? (As they break out the saw...) Man, those lasted - even in the tropics. But of course those were places where people still use ice to power their iceboxes at home!

Right now I have an "Ice Cube" 70-quart cooler. It's nothing special at all (and somewhat oddly shaped for either sitting on or fitting blocks of ice into). I bought it on the spur-of-the-moment at the Wal-Mart in Price last year on the way to Powell and just now used it for a month aboard so it's fresh in my mind. It has one of those telescoping handles and wheels like a carry on bag you'd use at an airport. As it turns out I don't use that feature at all (would be too heavy to lift into boat, so I just load cooler in boat, at least in my limited experience to-date). And the fact that there is a hump on the inside (where the wheels are outside) means that the drain plug is rather high on the cooler and you have to tip it way up to drain it. However if you want a small/tall footprint, or the wheels, it might be a choice as it is more cube-shaped than most.

I watched a video which I think is the test a couple folks have referred to in the thread. What I got out of it (by memory, a year later) is that the Yeti and Engel (Engel cooler; this is different from their 12-volt refrigerator) are both very good and very tough. For some reason I had in mind I might like the Engel better of the two, but I don't remember why. I did try opening an Engel at Cabela's last month and felt like I was not sure I'd want to bother with the latches just to grab a quick drink, etc. (but maybe you can just firmly push it closed and not latch the two latches every time - they were two rubber "T" sort of like a Jeep hood). I would want to try the Engel "everyday opening handiness" too before buying one.

The other thing I got out of the Video was that the Coleman Extreme series basically held ice just as long as the expensive coolers (Yeti/Engel), and was much, much less expensive to buy; but that the quality of the hardware (construction/hinges/lid/etc.) was about as good as you'd expect for the price, i.e. nothing like the better ones.

I like having a cooler aboard - I use it basically for drinks/milk and ice (the hardest for me to give up), and then since I have it for cheese, butter, some produce. Of course the latter depends a lot on where you boat; the dinette foot compartment would not make a good "larder" in Florida, for example - it would be 80º+ much of the time.

Since I'm not enamored of "The Cube," I'm also keeping an eye out for a cooler I like. I don't mind "investing" in a good one if it's just what I want; otherwise I'll look at the various Coleman Extreme models (Jay on Hunky Dory had one that fit four blocks, plus a tub of food that would then never get wet - that's how I use my cooler too but can never fit that much ice, but I can't remember which size he had). What I now know I want or don't want:

1) Holds ice and has a shape that will fit a food tub (or two) and blocks of ice efficiently (I use a plastic tub to put all the food into so it never gets wet; this is not one that comes with the cooler - at least so far - but just a tub I find that happens to fit well. This also makes it easy to just lift everything out when it is time to drain/add ice, then put it all back as a "lump." I do keep milk and drinks just "out" in the cooler though, packed in with the ice.

2) Lid is "pleasant" and easy to get open and shut one handed (food or drink is in other hand now).

3) Drain is easy to operate and drains cooler as much as possible without having to lift or tilt it a lot.

4) Lid is strong and can be used for seat.

5) Lid is strong and is of a height that I can use it to step up and over my motorwell board and onto the platform in the splashwell that is on the way to the swim step (Cube cooler did work very well for this).

6) Refillable/refreezable built in "ice packs" are not useful to me because I don't leave from a home base that has a big freezer, so I can't re-charge them regularly (if I do get that chance I can freeze water jugs, then use them to drink as they melt).

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunbeam wrote:
ghone wrote:
Some places don't sell block anymore. We could only get party ice.


You've hit on a sore point with me. The virtually complete lack of real block ice available in the U.S. anymore (I'm sure some places must still have it, but they are few and far between in my experience). <stuff clipped>

Sunbeam

It's sore point for me too. I go in wanting ice. I hold up a bag of cubes I ask, "Do you have anything other kind of ice than this?". They say "No, why do you ask?" To which I reply, "All you have is this 'party ice' and I'm REALLY NOT in the mood. Now I have to go home, clean the house, call my friends......" Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rogerbum wrote:

It's sore point for me too... I go in wanting ice....


Ha!

It does make it slightly more bearable reading that I'm not the only "outraged" one. Sorry, but my "party" needs to last a week, not an afternoon on the patio.
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We have an Outer Banks (65% off the last days of "Boaters World " existence). This is the same cooler as Icy Trek--and one of the older model "Rough Neck", Yeti coolers.

With any of the high end coolers it is best to "pre chill" the cooler with ice before you pack it with solid ice.

When checking cooler performance you have to differentiate between a week in Glacier Bay AK, vs a week in the summer at lake Powell, where it will be over 100 degrees during the day.

We also have 2 Coleman Xtreme coolers. We like the Outer Banks cooler better--on similar days, when we had both aboard, the Outer Banks (Yeti type) held ice better.

Tricks we use at Powell: get only block ice. Pre cool. Keep the cooler full. We put frozen food from the chest freezer on the top layer of the cooler each AM for that night's dinner meal. We do have a cheap bilge pump to get the water out every few days. We also have a piece of foam about 1/2" thick, with foil on both sides, which is slightly larger than the top of the cooler. There is a terry cloth towel we keep wet and over the ice chest. The foil/foam is over that. The terry cloth acts as an evaporative cooler also.

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