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Yellowstone



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing to consider (if you change your fluid) add the colored -red - stuff that makes your fluid movement easier to follow.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AK Angler wrote:
Sunbeam wrote:
.... a couple of hours running is a bit of a workout, which seems to "settle" into my neck muscles. ...

Sunbeam


That's why I'll never own a cable steered boat again. I've found that hydraulic steering is much easier on the captain - especially during long runs.


Thanks, now you've just cost me a few "boat bucks" Mr. Green

But really, that's good to know. It also tells me it's not just my particular steering cable.

I can see where a knob would be great for close-quarters maneuvering. Those of you who have the steering knobs installed: I've seen either "cheapies" on places like eBay (which, I wonder how or if they would fit on my wheel), or the very expensive Edson knob. From all reports the Edson one is fantastic, but is there any middle ground in price/quality? Anyone have specific ones they like or dislike?

I was reading that some fit onto the spokes (out near the rim, but inside the rim) and then you can still steer the regular way (hands going around the rim) if you want to. Anyone have one of those and is it something worth pursuing, or a non-issue?

I have the bare stainless wheel, btw, without the black foamy grip stuff on it.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:16 pm    Post subject: necker knob Reply with quote

Sunbeam.......

I have the Edson knob on the rim but inside the rim as it will not clear the cabin wall when outside. My wheel has the rubber foamy stuff on it and it is not real tight but worksgood for me after using it for awhile.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an idle comment. Teleflex has changed it's corporate name to SeaStar Solutions.

Anyone know what happened?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sunbeam

I was reading that some fit onto the spokes (out near the rim, but inside the rim) and then you can still steer the regular way (hands going around the rim) if you want to. Anyone have one of those and is it something worth pursuing, or a non-issue?

I have the bare stainless wheel, btw, without the black foamy grip stuff on it.

Sunbeam


Sunbeam-

Here's a plan for you:

Get a regular type auto knob.

To mount it on one of the spokes on your existing wheel….

Get a dowel of the diameter the knob is adjustable for.

Drill a hole down the cylinder of the dowel the diameter of your spokes.

Cut the dowel in half longitudinally with a saw.

Cut off a length of the split dowel that will fit into the knob.

Put the two halves of the split dowel on opposite sides of a spoke, slide the knob sleeve over them and tighten the knob down on the split sleeve and spoke underneath.

Like my Dad always used to say :

"Where there's a will, there's a way." Laughing

OR: You could get a 1940-something Buick steering wheel with a built-in spinner handle:



(Section on left of wheel center rotates within it's circle, allowing hand to turn wheel 360+ degrees without letting loose or turning over.) CLEVER!

I have also seen this steering sheel attributed to a 1938 Chevrolet!



Joe. Teeth Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe, Love that Buick wheel! I had never seen one.

Back to Sunbeam. I have had the spinner knobs on most of my power boats. With cable steering, the knob will always be in about the same position. Hydraulic steering--the dreaded Creep--and the knob is rarely in the same place. No worry. I am a one hand steerer. I want that right hand ready to work the throttle if it is rough, or wakes come along--working thru the seas, also for trim of motors, trim tabs, and the chart plotter/FF/ radar or even the sirius radio. So I lightly touch the wheel where it is easier--or use the knob if it close to being convenient.

I have used the Edison (cheaper version must of the time--but the Caracal has the all SS model. I have also used the Car ones-and if you just want to try it out--get one of those, and put it on the truck, if you don't like it on the boat.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:38 pm    Post subject: BayStar Hydraulic Steering Reply with quote

Joe,
Will's not here today.
Our boat a 23' Venture was built in 2008 came from the factory with Sea Star hydraulic steering which I believe is a little heavier than Bay Star. No issues yet but I do carry a quart of fluid just in case. I guess I should start carrying a seal kit. That could not hurt.
Justin Case Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the spinner knob comments, Thataway. Based on my recent use of the boat, I think I would find the spinner very useful. Maybe I'll just spring for the Edson one (and doesn't their steering wheel just look slick too.....). I like saving money as much as the next person, but then I've always found it especially worth it to get better products for those things that get handled all the time (faucets, doorknob, wheel, etc.)

Not sure yet if I would like a smaller diameter wheel with the cable steering. Space wise it would sure be nice (the wheel in my boat seems huge - although not sure the exact diameter as my tape measure fell victim to the "lightening" purge Very Happy)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:41 am    Post subject: Timely article about maintenance Reply with quote

GOOD ARTICLE on hydraulic steering maintenance in this months' Boat US magazine.

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