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haakebecks
Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Posts: 107
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Next Adventure
Photos: haakebecks (Name TBD)
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:30 pm Post subject: AirHead/NaturesHead vs. Jabsco Electric Flush |
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I've read most of the threads on here and sailnet, etc. to get a good idea on the pros and cons of these systems. That being said, most of the threads on here were older.
Those of you running composting toilets, are you still happy with them? Still no real odor problems?
Has anybody done a retrofit of one onto a 25 cruiser or 26 Venture? If so, how was it? |
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Alyssa Jean
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2375 City/Region: Guemes Is.(Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: Alyssa Jean
Photos: Anna Leigh and Alyssa Jean
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Pat has an Airhead on Daydream (25) since he bought the boat new. He has had no problems with it that I know of. I was just on the boat last month and was not aware of any odor.
He may give you an answer at some point. _________________ David and Kate
Alyssa Jean 16 Angler
Anna Leigh 22 Cruiser Sold 2005
Anna Leigh 25 Cruiser Sold 2014
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Ray
Joined: 13 Dec 2011 Posts: 271 City/Region: Pamlico River
State or Province: NC
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Seaweed
Photos: Seaweed
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I have just completed a retrofit of an Airhead in place of the factory all-in-one toilet/tank system.
The first thing I did was remove the old system and the associated plumbing. In order to make the sole look a little more uniform after removing the old system, I put down some Kiwigrip deck paint. I found some plastic plugs at McMaster-Carr that were nearly the same as the plumbing holes through the back wall and siliconed them in.
The vent is hooked through a right-angle cowling to a solar vent on the cabin top. I also hooked up the muffin fan that comes with it with a switch to run it separately if I want to. I made some aluminum threaded "tabs" that I slid behind the window frame to tie-back the hose in the corner.
The install of the main unit was quite easy. It is quite a bit smaller so there is more "moving around" room in there now as well.
I haven't had any experience using the unit yet, as I am about 2 months away from re-splashing after a MASSIVE number of mods (all to be posted after launch).[/u] |
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Ray
Joined: 13 Dec 2011 Posts: 271 City/Region: Pamlico River
State or Province: NC
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Seaweed
Photos: Seaweed
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Same info again here, just trying a new feature of Photobucket called stories -- Airhead Install
[sorry for wasting bandwidth] |
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onthewater
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 45 City/Region: Southwest Missouri
State or Province: MO
C-Dory Year: 2007
Vessel Name: Sal Salis Vita
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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We're on our third season with the Nature's Head, and absolutely love it (if you can "love" such a device!)
We removed the factory head, and easily installed the Nature's Head. It probably took about six hours time, all together
The Nature's Head does everything advertised with ease and efficiency.
We would never, ever consider returning to the marine head/holding tank combo.
That pretty much sums it up. _________________ 2007 Cape Cruiser 26 Marinaut |
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bobjarrard
Joined: 03 Oct 2010 Posts: 458 City/Region: Boulder City
State or Province: NV
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:33 am Post subject: Which composting toilet is the winner |
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I see we have both Nature and Air Heads here. Any input on which one you like best? I like the no-tip the seat idea but these two units fight it out in public all the time, hard to tell truth from hype!
bob |
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haakebecks
Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Posts: 107
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Next Adventure
Photos: haakebecks (Name TBD)
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the feedback Ray and Onthewater. Both very clean installs and definitely gives me some ideas.
Onthewater, since I also have a Venture 26, what did you end up doing with the associated, plumbing, waste tank, through-hulls, etc? Are you still using the waste tank as a gray water tank for say the shower?
What prompted you to vent out the side instead of the top?
How has the odor situation been? Any pointers to look out for either in regular use or with the install? |
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PeterQ
Joined: 11 Nov 2011 Posts: 70 City/Region: Annapolis & Mt Victoria
State or Province: MD
C-Dory Year: 2013
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wings
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:20 am Post subject: |
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I reviewed both composting heads using the manufacturer's web sites, YouTube, and other C-Brats comments. The Nature's Head and Air Head are very, very similar. One is not especially better in performance or materials than the other. Retail for the Air Head is $996 and Nature's Head is $875, for a difference of $121.
The Nature's Head liquids bottle is translucent and is in view from the front of the unit. Air Head's liquids bottle is solid with a replaceable site tube instead, which is a nicer, more discreet setup.
Removing the Nature's Head liquids bottle requires lifting the top off of the solids chamber, which is not a good deal! With the Air Head, the bottle unhooks without disturbing the rear solids chamber (better).
These two small differences lead me to go with the Air Head. I do believe that either unit would give you good service, though.
Pete _________________ Peter Nyce III
Aviator & Lifelong Boater
2013 C-Dory 25 Cruiser
Hurricane SD191
Hobie Wave
Each day is a gift - especially if it's spent on the water! |
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