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mwilson
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 109 City/Region: missoula
State or Province: MT
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: STORMY
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:59 pm Post subject: Throttle control linkage Advice |
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I have twin 40's on a 22 cruiser and my throttle linkage seems broken. Does anyone know how long a cable I need to order?
Has anyone replaced one before? Can I just feed new cable through the old shield, or do I need to replace the whole enchilada ? Is this a difficult job Or should just take it to the shop?
Linkage seems good at both ends but control lever doesn't move linkage on the carb.
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colobear
Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 2154 City/Region: Denver
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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try contacting Marc at Wefings or Les at EQ, either should have advice. _________________ Patti and Barry
formerly C-Cakes, now
rving around N. America |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20829 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Have you taken the binnacle apart to be sure that there is not an issue with that part of the cable attachment?
Disconnect both ends and see if the cable moves when you push it by hand.
It is rare for the cable to break--but often they become frozen due to corrosion--and moisture in the cable. You used to be able to grease and service the cables, but no longer is this possible. Sometimes there is moisture inside of the sheath, it either rusts, or during the cold of the winter freezes the moisture and then causes damage to the cable sheath.
You cannot just feed a new cable in. The entire sheath and fittings need to be replaced. You should be able to measure this with a tape. _________________ Bob Austin
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mwilson
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 109 City/Region: missoula
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Bob but I'm not sure what the binicle is. I've moved both ends of the cable but either end will not move the other. Michael |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20829 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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The Binnacle is the throttle and shifter mechanism at the helm. I assume that you have disconnected both ends--and if the cable does not move, then it will need to be replaced. |
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mwilson
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 109 City/Region: missoula
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Bob I disconnected the cable at the motor and pulled the cable it was broken about 6 inches into the cable. The shops around here are backed up about a month, so I guess I'll be replacing myself. Looks fairly simple except all the cables are bundled and zip tied together. Maybe I can recruit my 103 pound wife to work the part in the galley.
I guess the best way to get the right length is to pull and measure the old one?. |
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digger
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 496 City/Region: Spokane
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Often the outer cable sheath has markings giving the size. |
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thataway
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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You are going to have to cut those zip ties, and pull the old cable. Not too hard to do in the 22. Yes, it will be best to pull it and measure. That way you will be sure. You have done 1/3 of the work already--DIY! |
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dotnmarty
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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thataway wrote: |
It is rare for the cable to break--but often they become frozen due to corrosion--and moisture in the cable. You used to be able to grease and service the cables, but no longer is this possible. Sometimes there is moisture inside of the sheath, it either rusts, or during the cold of the winter freezes the moisture and then causes damage to the cable sheath.
You cannot just feed a new cable in. The entire sheath and fittings need to be replaced. You should be able to measure this with a tape. |
Well, this just happened to our control cable. The specifics of the cable are indeed clearly marked on the sheath. It's a "Glendinning Pro X A7100, 13 ft." Can I use an available Pro X A 7100 14ft. to replace it? Thanks. _________________ MartyP
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nmitch2859
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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I did replace my throttle control cable on my Bayliner. I taped the new cable to the old one. Make sure the tape is sloped on the new cable, makes it easier to pull the cable through. With the tape sloped, it will reduce the effort to pull and the cable is less likely to be caught by other wires. _________________ Neal J |
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Hunkydory
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2660 City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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I replaced both of ours to the Honda 40's about 7 years ago, so to long to remember much about it other then it was a fairly simple process other then the cramped working space. I'm now in the process of replacing my complete hydraulic steering system including lines & re installing the auto pilot & its for sure a much tougher job.
Jay _________________ Jay and Jolee 2000 22 CD cruiser Hunkydory
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dotnmarty
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 4196 City/Region: Sammamish
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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We put in at a ramp yesterday. It started right up but when I put it into reverse it just lurched forward, just missing a classic Chris Craft . Luckily Dotty caught a cleat on the dock with a boat pole. We shut it down and that was it, the motor wouldn't turn on again. I was able to raise the motor with the switch on the engine. Anyway, I just wondered if I could a longer control cable with the same specs. Just thought I'd check. Thanks for replying. |
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ghone
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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It is quite acceptable to be a little long on the cable. The excess foot or two can be used up in the loop to the engine and in making a smooth curve to your controls. George |
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