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Amphion



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City/Region: Powell River
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C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:21 am    Post subject: Water on cabin floor of 2007 22 Cruiser? Reply with quote

I just pulled my boat out of the water yesterday. Cabin was dry.
As I put on the tie downs I decided to pull the drain plug as there were a few hills to climb and thought it would get any water out of the bilge. Cabin was dry. I got the boat home and gave the hull a quick clean and then took it to the storage yard.

Once there I climbed in to do a last check and here the carpet in the cabin had a pool of salt water? I see no drain in the cabin floor so where could it come from?

I am at a loss. Any input would be appreciated.

Cheers!
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jack keifer



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had a similar problem a few years ago. After a lot of troubleshooting, the source was the foot pump that supplies water to the galley sink. There was no fix other than replacing the pump, but it was not expensive.
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thataway



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salt water--not out of the foot water pump...There is another thread currenly about the plug between the cockpit and the cabin in a 2007 C Dory 22. I assume that the bilge pump in your boat is in the very aft by the transom.

There could have been some water under the cockpit floor boards, which ran forward into the cabin, if the plug was not in the aft bulkhead of the cabin. Also could have been water form the anchor locker, or the forward brass strip, which could have been trapped under the forward bunk/floor, and came aft when you pulled the boat.

In any case, I suspect that as you pulled the boat out the water ran from either the cockpit or under cabinets into the main saloon area.

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Amphion



Joined: 04 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:45 pm    Post subject: No floor boards... Reply with quote

I have no floorboards! There is, what looks like a plug under the ports potty
But it looks fine. I felt around under the Vberth and it felt dry?

The mystery continues...
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thataway



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No floor boards in the cockpit? I thought that all of the boats form 2006 on had them-but maybe they were an option?

Is there a hole between the cockpit and the cabin on the floor in the middle? If so is there a plug in this hole?
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Amphion



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No hole between the cabin and cockpit.
I put down interlocking tiles in the cockpit.
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exact lee



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be water from under the cockpit sole that stayed aft when the boat was bow high in the water, but came forward when the bow was lowered on land. See this thread:

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=11425&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Joe
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Sunbeam



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think in a 2007 you would have the permanent/flat cockpit sole, right (vs. floorboards in the boats with no permanent flat sole)? So any water that runs forward on the cockpit sole runs up to the joint of the cockpit sole and the cabin bulkhead. I am not clear on whether the sole is tabbed (fiberglass) or just caulked to the cabin bulkhead, although IIRC it may be caulked. But either way I believe I have read of leaks at that joint being possible. I think it may also be possible for water to get under the "permanent" sole, in which case it could also come up against a joint at the cabin bulkhead maybe?
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ssobol



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 2008 22 cruiser. It has the factory flat floor in the cockpit. I think the guy who owned it before me had some issue with water coming into the cabin. He said it was somehow coming in between the cockpit floor panels and the aft bulkhead of the cabin usually from rain or water splashed in the cockpit, water could get in the gap between the floor panel and the bulkhead and then into the cabin.

He ended up filling the gap between the edge of the cockpit floor panel and the cabin bulkhead with 3M 5200 from one gunwhale to the other (looks like it probably took a couple of caulking gun size cartridges). Seems to have solved the problem 'cause I have no issue with water in the cabin.

If you search the forums for water in the cabin I think you'll find some posts about this issue.
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Amphion



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: I'm Back! Reply with quote

Sorry for not responding, but I was away on holidays with the family. Now I am back and will try to resolve where this water came from.

The cabin floor is curved in my boat and there is what looks like a plug under the Portapotty. I am going to try to remove it and see if water is trapped under it.

I don't believe the water came from the anchor locker as I have yet to even use the anchor. However, I will check to make sure the drain is working. I will also check the seam where the cabin wall meets the cockpit floor.

I read the post about the "extra hole" in the bilge area and will check to see if mine has one.

Thanks for all the responses and I will post what I find.

Cheers
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Amphion



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:52 pm    Post subject: Findings... Reply with quote

Well I went and checked my boats bilge area for the "mysterious holes" but mine doesn't have any.
So I lowered the nose wheel of the trailer as low as I could, to see if any water appeared in the cabin or under the V birth, and left it over night.

The following day a small puddle had appeared at the entrance to the V birth. I could see the dried path it took and it came from the foot pump. It seems the water had entered from the rear wall of the cabin, through a small stress crack, and traveled along the inside edge of the cabinets until it reached the foot pump. I removed the old calking along the base of the cabin wall where it meets the cockpit floor and resealed it. The original calking job was not good so I think I might have solved my problem.

Here is what I think happened. When I was towing the boat to the storage yard there is one steep hill where the stern would be quite high compared to the bow. I am assuming that the water was under the cockpit floor and moved up against the cabin wall. There was some traffic so I had to wait a few minutes before I could move and that might have given the bulk of the water time to penetrate the wall. I have rocked the boat and hear no sloshing so I hope its all out. I also left the boat bow down for another 24 hours, and it was dry this morning.

I am surprised that there is not a drain or a small access hatch to check to see if there is in fact any water under the cockpit?

Anyway, she will go back in the water soon and will see if any more water appears.

Thanks again for all the responses! javascript:emoticon('Very Happy')
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