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Sunbeam
Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 3990 City/Region: Out 'n' About
State or Province: Other
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: Sunbeam
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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BrentB wrote: |
Contact Perko for an update |
I had ordered it through a chandlery, who had supposedly contacted Perko. After bugging them a few times I sort of gave up (but did not withdraw my order). Then I just looked for them whenever I had a chance (to no avail). That's all solved now though as West Marine has them (at least they show them in stock online), and will ship free to a store. So I will order one as soon as I'm going to be near a store (few weeks).
If it had been a super high priority, I would have contacted Perko, but it was one of those "I'll just see what happens" things. I had figured to just make my own by laying up a bit of fiberglass if I never found one (saving a few bucks) and/or move the light to a radar arch. But now that I have found the Perko part I'll order one just for ease/expediency. |
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4656 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Photos: 'AU KAI
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Old thread brought back:
I noticed water in our port (red) nav light, so I opened it up to see what was going on. Wet & corroded and I have no idea how it got in. The seal seems OK and no cracks. I did not see any water in the starboard (green) light, but I figured I'd better check it too. Took it apart and the lens came out in three pieces. So the intact lens light was soaked and the one with the broken lens was dry. Weird.
No problem though, I'll just buy a new green lens and clean up the red one. Wrong. Perko does not sell just the lens on the model 170 lights; you have to buy the entire light assembly. $34/ea at Fisheries. Cheap enough.
Well, since I have to replace at least the green one, I'll update them to LED units, right? Uhm, no. $198/ea at Fisheries for the LED version of the 170!
My solution? I ordered two new 170 nav lights in incandescent and I ordered one each red & green LED replacement bulbs from marinebeam.com. $41 delivered to my door for the two bulbs.
Makes each light an LED nav light for about $55 a piece. _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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srbaum
Joined: 30 Aug 2010 Posts: 877 City/Region: Portsmouth
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Osprey
Photos: Osprey
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Localboy,
You made a great choice! Years ago, on my 22 cruiser, when my Perko 170's were toast like yours, I bit the bullet and purchased the 170 LED's. I was excited to keep the same configuration as was on my boat. Same footprint, no new holes and no bad looking gelcoat, for areas that had been covered by the old lights.
Well, I had to order them back then and wait a month to get them and they were very expensive. I took the lights and a bag with a few tools in it to the dock, figuring that I would swap out the lights in less than 30 minutes. After taking off the first light and just about pitching it in the trash, I reinstalled it. The new LED light had the same footprint, but the power wire comes out of it in a different area and would require a new hole in the boat.
Back in the house, I gave it some though. No I did not want to drill another hole, I only drills holes on a boat if no other alternatives exist. After sleeping on it, I had a plan. I was able to take thick rubber gasket material, cut it to fit the light base, then cut out the gasket to reroute the new wire route to the old wire hole. The LED wire size was smaller that the incandescent wire, so there was plenty of room for the new wire, without hard turns or pinching it. Problem solved, but the 30 minute job took several hours, including a trip to the local gasket store... _________________ Steve Baum
Homeport of Portsmouth, VA
OSPREY (Ex Mister Sea) 2000 22 C-Dory 2010 - Sold 3/19
OSPREY (Ex ADITI) 2007 26 Cape Cruiser 2018 |
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4558 City/Region: Madison
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Traveler
Photos: C-Traveler and Midnight-Flyer
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4656 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Photos: 'AU KAI
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:10 am Post subject: |
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I would have gone with something else vs the Perko ones, but as Steve noted, the holes already existed for the 170s. Aqua Signal had some nice LED units that were completely sealed, but again...holes. The "quality" of the Perko stuff does not impress me. But alas...holes. |
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4558 City/Region: Madison
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Traveler
Photos: C-Traveler and Midnight-Flyer
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I would have gone with something else vs the Perko ones, but as Steve noted, the holes already existed for the 170s. Aqua Signal had some nice LED units that were completely sealed, but again...holes. The "quality" of the Perko stuff does not impress me. But alas...holes. |
Bodyfiller and matching paint. Unless you get up close and look for it, you can't really see where the old nav lights mounted. I had used the LED replacement lamps earlier, but like you found my lenses were no longer holding up. And didn't really like the setup of using the LED conversion lamps. The newer LED Nav lights look nice, are brighter, and after a little hull work, came out looking pretty good. Colby |
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4656 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Photos: 'AU KAI
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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I thought I'd quickly update this. So I decided to remove/install the lights today prior to leaving for work. Should go quickly, right? I mean two screws each light and done. Easy...peazy. Wrong.
Someone at the factory gobbed some white sealant/adhesive (5200?) all over the rear of the light housings making them nearly impossible to remove. I had to pry the edge up and shave the sealant, little by little, with a razor blade to get them off. Then cut away the remaining sealant with a window scraper (razor blade type) from the gelcoat and finished with boat cleaner to clean it all up. Pics in my album.
I'll install the new lights on my next day off, which will be next week. Once in, I'll compare the incandescent bulbs to the LED ones and post some pics. |
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