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hambone



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:11 pm    Post subject: MMSI NUMBER Reply with quote

Two years ago I purchased SEA WOLF from a fellow C-Brat. It has a ICOM IC-M422 VHF radio. Looked good and worked fine. After getting it I added my new MMSI number to it (so I thought) and off I went. This last month why reading a how to article on a forum to check if your MMSI number was installed correctly I decided to check my radio to see that I had installed it correctly. NOPE, not even close.

Ok, now the bad news. Mad Seems this radio will only program a MMSI number once when you first get it. After that the radio is stuck with that number only. The fix.. Rolling Eyes Call and see if I can change the MMSI number installed on the radio to my number. Called SEATOW and was told to log on and request the number be changed over. Rolling Eyes NOPE, darn thing says down for maintainance. OK, wait awhile and check again. NOPE Evil or Very Mad

Does any of my C-BRAT brothers know of a fix for this? Kind of a pain as I see it. Why in heavens name are you only able to program ONE MMSI number on this radio? Hate to have to purchase another radio just because of that. Anyway here are a couple mad guys to make me feel better. Angry Angry

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hambone,

I am no expert with mobile radios...
However, to the best of my knowledge, the radio can be programmed twice with a MMSI number. After that you will have to go to the dealer for a software rest.

ICOM IC-M422 VHF radio manual extract:
MMSI code programming
The 9-digit MMSI (Maritime Mobile Service Identity: DSC self
ID) code can be programmed at power ON.
This function is not available when the MMSI code has
been programmed by the dealer. This code programming
can be performed only twice.

Heinz

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think many VHF radios allow only one MMSI to be programmed. I had to send a Raymarine radio back to the manufacturer to have it changed Angry $. Contact ICOM and see what they say.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C-Cakes,

Changing the MMSI in the IC-M422 should not be a problem as it can be programmed twice. Please see http://www.fairwind.org/boats/HO/IC-M422_manual.pdf page 13. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know on Standard Horizon, you have to take it to an authorized repair facility or send it back to change it. I am sending one back today as I moved it from one boat to another.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible that the first MMSI number was set by a dealer, or that more than one MMSI number has already been programed in. In that case, I believe that Icom can reprogram if you send it back.

The idea behind this was to keep boats from putting in fake or other boats MMSI numbers--the number is supposed to stay with that boat/radio. But its not a perfect world!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thataway wrote:
It is possible that the first MMSI number was set by a dealer, or that more than one MMSI number has already been programed in. In that case, I believe that Icom can reprogram if you send it back.

The idea behind this was to keep boats from putting in fake or other boats MMSI numbers--the number is supposed to stay with that boat/radio. But its not a perfect world!


Thanks for the quick response guys. Bob, as others you are dead right. Either the dealer or the original owner programed it more than once. She's a no go for now. I finally got through to ICOM and YES the radio must be programed by a dealer. Soooooooo, I contacted a dealer and spoke with him today and will mail the radio to him. I guess after Bob's explanation I see why it needs to be done. I still say BAH HUMBUG.. Thanks everyone...Hambone
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the radios are having to go back to the dealer for the MMSI # change, curious if they are charging for that. From Barry's response ( Angry $) it looks like it.

So if you have had to send in your radio for the change, curious what they are charging? Sure hope it is less than buying a new radio.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Standard Horizon's charge is $35 plus shipping.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tpbrady wrote:
Standard Horizon's charge is $35 plus shipping.


Thanks Tom,

Way better than a new radio.

Harvey
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm, too bad this has not come to the attention of the pimple faced hacker crowd. If it had, there would be an app for your phone that would allow reprogramming your MMSi at will. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardee wrote:
tpbrady wrote:
Standard Horizon's charge is $35 plus shipping.


Thanks Tom,

Way better than a new radio.

Harvey
SleepyCMoon


I was told 20 to 40 bucks plus shipping from the dealer. Angry

Gonna track me down one of them pimple faced hacker dudes..

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll pretty much guarantee all the factory does is push the soft buttons in the right sequence for 30 seconds and then charge you 35 bucks for the privilege. The ham radio and cell phone world almost never requires anything to be done from inside the equipment. It's all about soft buttons and sequences. But that said, if you don't know the soft button sequence, then off to the factory it goes.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hambone wrote:
hardee wrote:
tpbrady wrote:
Standard Horizon's charge is $35 plus shipping.


Thanks Tom,

Way better than a new radio.

Harvey
SleepyCMoon


I was told 20 to 40 bucks plus shipping from the dealer. Angry

Gonna track me down one of them pimple faced hacker dudes..

Hambone

These days, those pimple faced hacker dudes are getting $50-$200/hr working for .com's. The dealer charge will likely be less than what it will cost you to get a pimple faced hacker dude to work on it (not to mention the signing bonus he'll expect). Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One other point to make is that MMSIs can be transferred. When you buy a used boat, the previous owner can cancel / release the MMSI number and it can then be transferred to you. It's free and keeps the MMSI with the boat, which is the main purpose in the first place.

Unfortunately, this isn't always possible when the former owner enters the old MMSI number in to their new boat.

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