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Discovery
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 1245 City/Region: LOA, UTAH
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:30 pm Post subject: Garmin Data Cards |
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I recently bought a 2006 CD 22' Angler. It has a Garmin GPS Map 3006C Chartplotter. There were no included Garmin Data Cards with the unit. They seem to be discontinued cards. Garmin Data Cards or Bluecharts or G2. The SD or micro SD's are not compatable. I am looking for a US Western Inland Lakes card. I think the # is 010-C0456-00, also any western US coast cards or Puget Sound and BC cards.
Many of the C-Brats have used the older Garmin chartplotters in the past and upgraded to newer units, so did any of you keep the old cards and want to sell or donate them?
PM or Email me, or post here.
Thanks, Brent _________________
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Tug
Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 990 City/Region: Sault Ste. Marie
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have the chip that you are looking for but i have a Garmin GPSMap 172C .It has a 5 inch viewing screen..if anyone has a larger GPSMap Chartplotter that they want to sell i am in the market for one. Thanks Tug |
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Sunbeam
Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 3990 City/Region: Out 'n' About
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Brent,
I started a thread a month or two ago because of a similar situation. My 22 Cruiser came with a Garmin 2006c which uses the same cards as yours does, and likewise I found that Garmin no longer sells them. I was looking to either buy some cards from C-Brats who were no longer using them, and/or start a sort of "card exchange" wherein we could lend them around (since few people can boat in more than one area at a time).
The thread didn't really take off, but then too, I didn't have much to offer at the time - just the one, lonely card that came in my 2006c. Since then I have slowly found and bought a few cards, so maybe I should resurrect the thread for the "lending/exchange" function (A C-Brat did PM me and offer to "burn" me a specific area I needed, which was really nice )
You may already have discovered this, but I found two decent sources to be Craigslist and eBay. On eBay you can get many of the cards - albeit they are not cheap. I found myself weighing up the cost of cards vs. the cost of a new plotter that came pre-loaded with a great many of them (they seem to come pre-loaded with either coastal or inland, but that's a lot of cards to buy individually). Craigslist seems to have more reasonable prices, but is a bit more hit-or-miss as to availability. I guess a lot depends on whether one plans to "keep it local" or travel widely.
I did decide to buy cards and stick with my 2006c for now. I like the way it functions, and also none of the new ones available now just exactly suited my fancy (which, for the price, I would want them to). I figured that if/when it came time to upgrade (later), maybe there'd be a clearer choice for me for a new one.
Sunbeam
PS: What got to me as I was card shopping was just *knowing* how many people probably have unused ones gathering dust in a drawer but just haven't thought to try to sell them! |
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Sunbeam
Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 3990 City/Region: Out 'n' About
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Garmin Data Cards |
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Discovery wrote: | They seem to be discontinued cards. Garmin Data Cards or Bluecharts or G2. The SD or micro SD's are not compatable. |
Oops, I just noticed you mentioned "G2" in the body of the thread. I was thinking that our two plotters used the same cards, but in looking it up just now, I see that yours uses the "G2" cards, which I think are a generation newer than the ones mine uses (which are simply "Garmin Bluechart Datacard"). In fact, I used a "minus" add-on to my search terms of "-G2, -MicroSD, -SD" when I was searching to try to weed those out.
What I'm not sure of is if your unit can *also* use the "plain" (non-G2) Garmin Bluechart Datacards that mine uses. Maybe yours can use either one? Here is a photo of a "plain" (non-G2) Garmin Bluechart Datacard that goes into the 2006c and many older/other popular Garmins (172, 182, 188, etc.):
Sorry if I muddied up your thread, but maybe other people would also have been confused (heh, as I try to justify my reading of it )
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Discovery
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 1245 City/Region: LOA, UTAH
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Sunbeam,
I'm not that sure what charts are compatible. They are on the dedicated Garmin Data Cards. I know the Bluechart cards will work and I saw g2 mentioned somewhere. The SD and Micro SD cards do not work. You can buy the US lakes on a DVD and load it onto a Garmin Data Card, but I don,t have access to a Garmin card reader. There are updates available for the 3006C, but that still takes a chart reader to write to the card. As of now I don't even have a blank Garmin Data Card to use.
For now I would just like to find a chart card that covers Lake Powell.
Brent |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21356 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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I think that part of the problem is as Brent outlined--that a specific card writer and specific card is necessary--they don't use the stand SD, CF etc cards. Several other plotters used this trick to make you buy "their cards", at an inflated price.
I happen to agree with Sunbeam that some of the older Garmin Chart plotters seemed more intuitive to use. But now that I have a couple of the more modern plotters they are also fairly easy to use--and offer a lot more, such as AIS (not that you would use that on Powell).
Brent--how about the I Pad--we used ours extensively on Powell this Spring--and I know you have one, which could be switched to the Angler.
Are you all bringing the Angler, rather than the Tom Cat? _________________ Bob Austin
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Sunbeam
Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 3990 City/Region: Out 'n' About
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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I just asked a friend and have some (but not definitive) clarification.
These things should be true:
1) The "original" Garmin Bluechart Datacard that I pictured above, and the newer Garmin G2 datacard (not sure of the official name) are the same physical size and shape.
2) The older Garmins (172, 188, etc.) on up through my 2006c and I think the 2010c can only read the "original" (non-G2) cards (the G2 would physically fit in the machine but could not be read by it).
3) Conversely, the 3006c can read the G2 data cards. The "original" cards can also fit in the machine.
This next part is very likely true but not 100% sure from my source:
4) The 3006c can also read the "original" cards such as I pictured above and that the older units can (only) read.
If #4 is true, that means you have more flexibility and can use either the "original" cards or the G2 cards. If my searches are any indication that will open up a lot more used cards to you (because of course I kept on finding the G2's but cannot use them ).
A note on Powell: I've noticed where a few people have said the Navionics/iPad charts are actually better than the Garmin ones for that location. I'm going to PM you on the Powell Garmin card though.
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Sunbeam
Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 3990 City/Region: Out 'n' About
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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thataway wrote: | I think that part of the problem is as Brent outlined--that a specific card writer and specific card is necessary |
As I understand it, that is another way. People could buy CD's and then some sort of writer and then blank data cards and make their own chart cards.
When I put out a call for the original cards (buy/borrow/trade) earlier, a kind C-Brat offered to make me a Powell card if I would send a blank data card to use. I found one on eBay, bought it, and it's on the way there now (so if things go well I'll have a Powell card on my Garmin for the upcoming trip).
There are also pre-made cards from Garmin - I bought a few of these from eBay to use with my 2006c (but you have to buy them area-by-area).
Sunbeam
PS: One potential "gotcha" with the blank cards: Check to see how large a card your unit can use. I was thinking I'd get a 256 or 512mb card because you get more for your money that way; but then I did some research and found that my 2006c can only take up to a 128mb card (before I bought one, luckily). |
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Discovery
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Sunbeam,
Thanks for the responses. I do want a card for Lake Powell if I can find one. Still looking, nothing on eBay or Craig's List today.
Bob,
I do have and will use the iPad. Just wanted a backup.
We will be bringing the TomCat to Powell. No chance of giving up the TomCat luxury for an Angler for 10 days. The Angler is my fishing boat and for trips with the motorhome. We used to go to Sequim for a month and fish, crab and shrimp each summer. We want to do that again with the Grandkids. The Angler is perfect for this.
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jkidd
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:41 pm Post subject: Data cards |
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Brent
PM sent _________________ Jody Kidd
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Dora~Jean
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Just a thought, many years ago West Marine downloaded a chart onto a blank card for my 188 Garmen, they had just run out of stock of the one I wanted. They sold it to me at a reduced price too! I wonder if they still have reader/writers at some of the stores that might work.
Side question on Craig's List. I can't seem to find the trick on how to search multiple areas at one time, like all of the U.S. Anyone know? _________________ Steve & Carmen
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Discovery
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Steve,
Google "all of Craig's list" or similar searches. There are sites that do that.
I may have found a solution for the Powell card, but thanks.
Brent |
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thataway
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Sunbeam not sure that we disagree. In order to write or read one of the Garmin cards you have to have a reader/writer which will allow use of these specific cards. I never had a Garmin reader /writer, but still have a Lowrance reader/ writer. I have a card reader which will take 16 different types of cards--but not the Garmin.
At one time Garmin sold codes so that when you had the CD you could "unlock" down load a specific chart--they were limited to only two charts copy from each code. Not sure if this still holds true, or if someone has a way around it.
The newer charts are so much better and more detailed than the old charts. Both work. But then this is the first year I have hand any good cartography on Powell, and is our 9th year--and at least 11th time. The buoy's at the canyon entrances have the canyon names on them, and there are "Mile markers" all along the channel. The chart plotters and I pads are of greatest value as you go out of the main lake and look for ways to get around various headlands as well as take shortcuts--since the lake changes almost daily.
The lake today is 13 feet lower than it was when we were here in April. This may not seem like a lot, but is a a very large volume of water, and the contours will be entirely different. I will take photos of where we anchored earlier this year (from GPS coordinates for comparison and illustration)
Castle rock cut off is almost 15 feet deep today, so it remains usable and should be for the time that the C Brats are up there. (This can save a number of miles going up lake, and avoids the wash of wakes in the Antelope Canyon area.) |
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Sunbeam
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:33 am Post subject: |
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thataway wrote: | Sunbeam not sure that we disagree. |
You know, I just came back to this thread, re-read it, and was thinking "Hmm, I don't think Bob was disagreeing with me.... why did I read it that way?" Oops - sorry about that.
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SENSEI
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Brent, check out this on Seattle CL today
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/3266199985.html _________________ Roger on the "SENSEI"
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