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JGrider
Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 93 City/Region: Laplace
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:06 am Post subject: 1000 generator |
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How much noise does it put out and how heavy? I have a 22 c-dory and would like air conditioning. I'm trying to make a decision between a 1000 or a 2000 generator. |
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Will-C
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:25 am Post subject: 1000 generator |
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Our air conditioner is 9500 btu I would not go with anything less than the Honda
EU 2000. I'm thinking an EU 2000 is puts out about twevle amps as I am not sure of the exact watts to amps conversion. Borrow a generator to make sure it can run your unit before you buy. I would choose to have a generator that was not running maxed out all the time. Just me talking. The exact weight should be listed on Honda's site. For me the EU 2000 is managable I'm guessing 50 or 60 pounds. To run all night you willl need an extended fuel option either a tank from Wise mfg. or tapped into your boats tank, many ideas available if you search this site. I'm sure others will pipe in, be cool
D.D. _________________ Chevrolet The Heart Beat Of America |
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Morning Star
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:30 am Post subject: |
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I use a Honda 2000 generator to power the 9000 BTU air conditioner on the roof of our CD26V. It is not very heavy. The noise is low and is drowned out by the AC noise. I am happy with the set up. _________________ Jim |
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Tad and Toby Jackson
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:51 am Post subject: |
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We use a Zenith 5000 BTU AC unit from Home Depot. $100. Installed through the front window with a length of AC foam across the top and 2" 3M tape down the sides. We use the EU 1000 to run it with an extended run fuel tank to eliminate getting up the in the middle of the night to fill the Honda. Pictures of the project in our album. I think the 1000 puts out about 8.5 Amps and the AC requires 4.8 amps so we start the AC on fan and then ease it into cool mode, low and then move it up to mid or high range. Cools the cabin to under 70 degrees in about 30 minutes in the heat of summer and will keep it in the 60's thru the night.
The 1000 weighs 29 lbs. 17.7" long, 9.4" wide and 15" tall.
The 2000 weighs 46.3 lbs. 20" long, 11.4" wide and 16.7" tall.
We also use the West Marine electric heater during the winter. We cannot run it at high heat due to amperage draw, but mid heat is usually sufficient down here in Florida.
If cost or additional weight and size are not a factor for your kind of boating, I think I would recommend the 2000 as that would allow for full throttle AC with minimum noise in the ECO mode for the Honda and high heat from the heater.
Tad and Toby on the Comfy Dory |
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JGrider
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Thanks to everyone for the replies. I will take your advice and be looking at only the Honda 2000. |
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BrentB
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:18 am Post subject: Re: 1000 generator |
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JGrider wrote: | How much noise does it put out and how heavy? I have a 22 c-dory and would like air conditioning. I'm trying to make a decision between a 1000 or a 2000 generator. |
EU 1000
Noise Level
59 dB @ rated load
53dB @ 1/4 load
Same specs for EU2000 _________________ Brent Barrett |
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thataway
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Don't discount the 1000 if you have a 5,000 BTU window type of AC unit. We ran one very successfully in over 100 degree weather to cool a C D 25, with the $98 unit in the front window, with foam and sunbrella around as "gaskets"--and foil in the windows.
The 2000 operates our 8300 Coleman RV type unit on the Tom Cat, in Eco mode.
You can buy a Kill-a-Watt meter which will tell you how much your AC unit draws and then determine if the 1000 or 2000 will work.
The 1000 is substantially lighter (which was a plus for us).
As for remote fuel--only if the tank is near the level of the generator. if there is more than 12" "draw" for the fuel, it will not produce enough vacuum. There is no fuel pump on either of these generators. It is gravity flow, and the gravity flow creates a vacuum, which pulls fuel over in a closed system via the vent cap. Not sure if you can use the 22 with a fuel tank which is full--but you want the generator in a position which will keep it dry from splash generated by waves.
Built in marine AC units use more current since they use a 110 volt water pump. Again find out the current draw--and "invest" in a Kill-a-watt meter, or a good clamp on AC amp meter (Sears combo unit is excellent). _________________ Bob Austin
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texasair
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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The EU1000 runs the small window unit fine.
Photos of our install and generator mounting in our album.
Removed the glass pane from the window and had a plexiglass one cut to fit the AC install.
We had to look hard to find a small Microwave with a low enough draw to use the EU 1000. The lowest draw one we fount was a Procter-Silex and the EU 1000 barely runs it. It is listed as 600 watts power output. But I think that it draws on the input side close to 900 watts
The EU 1000 does run the Frigidaire 5000 BTU AC effortlessly. |
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letitride
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Recommend EU2000
My understand is the EU2000 has better bearings then the EU1000 and can run many more hrs before requiring a re-build this is what my Honda Mechanic recommended - but perhaps some one else can comment on this subject in more detail.
This may be another factor for making decision on what model to purchase |
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thataway
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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It is possible that the 2000 has "better bearings" because it is a larger engine. I have a 30 plus year old 500 watt Honda generator which still runs fine. I doubt that any of us will wear out bearings or any other parts on these generators. |
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lloyds
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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My dad had one of those 500 watt'ers. I would love to find one someplace. They weigh very little and would be really good on the boat. |
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JGrider
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks I''m reading the responses and appreciate everyone's time and trouble.
Jeannie's VooDoo |
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journey on
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:20 am Post subject: |
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I bought a Honda 1000 about 10 years ago and it's been used faithfully ever summer. This year I had to replace the carburetor ($70) because of the throttle servo motor, and that's the only problem. The one thing I do is change the engine oil a couple times a year. It's about $1/change, but those small motors need clean oil. I don't care if it's a 1000 or 2000, it's a small engine and needs clean oil. Do that and either will run forever.
I had one of those 500 watt Hondas and gave it to my brother. He doesn't change oil in anything and it quit after a year. They all need clean oil and they'll run a long time.
If the cost, weight and size don't bother you obviously get a 2000. If nothing else, you'll have more margin to run whatever you want to run: air conditioner, microwave, etc. If you want to charge batteries, the 1000 will put out all you need. By the way, the 1000 puts out about 800 watts. I doubt if the 2000 delivers over 1600 watts, but ?
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: |
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journey on wrote: | By the way, the 1000 puts out about 800 watts. I doubt if the 2000 delivers over 1600 watts... |
2000 (16.7 amps) watts max, 1600 watts (13.3 amps) continuous.
I bought a eu2000i used (under 100 hrs of use) on Craigslist last week for $700. I have a lot of potential uses for it other than on the CD (e.g. running a 12 amp leaf blower on our driveway without stringing together multiple 100' extension cords). Lots of consumer electrical devices are sized for 15 amp 120VAC outlets and (IMHO) it makese a certain amount of sense to be able to provide at least that amount of power. _________________ 36' Little Harbor Whisperjet - Lulu
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bburgin
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 8:43 pm Post subject: honda 1000 |
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I have had both, go with the 2000, your boat has a nice place to build a rack to hold it, check mine out. |
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