15" Shaft Kicker on CD25

Jim & Dara · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:03 pm Post subject: 15" Shaft Kicker on CD25

I (perhaps foolishly) pounced on a Nissan 9.8 kicker with approximately 10 minutes on the motor for our new dinghy.

I understand that kickers on the 25 tend to have a 20" shaft but I'm hoping to find a bracket that will allow me to use the 15" shaft. Does anyone have experience with this set up or recommendations for a bracket that will work?

I don't fish much so trolling isn't an issue.

Thanks in advance!

thataway · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:54 pm Post subject:

You can do fine with one of the fold up/fold down brackets. We mostly used our 2.5 hp Sizzuki, but have also put the 15 hp Honda Electric start on the same bracket. The problem will be that you will not do well in reverse--since the prop will not be entirely below the water line--but with the setback of the bracket and the 15" shaft--you can still use the short shaft. The motor cowling will be closer to the water, but since the 25 stern lifts fast, we never had any problem with waves over the motor. If runnng it down wind/waves you might have some probelms with ventillation of the prop.

Jim & Dara · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:52 pm Post subject:

Thank you for the info Bob. I was hoping/thinking this would be the case.

JamesTXSD · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject:

I've used the short shaft motor for our dinghy on the back our CD-25. We use an adjustable motor mount... with the mount all the way up, the motor is easily clear of the water; all the way down, it keeps the short shaft in the water.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Auxiliary-Outboard-Adjustable-Motor-Brackets/700685.uts?rid=0987654321

This isn't the exact mount we have (not at the boat right now), but it is similar.

Hope that helps.

Best wishes,
Jim B.

Swee Pea · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:32 am Post subject:

Although I have a 22', the bracket I used is the one being referred to. I likewise have a 15" shafted (Nissan 6hp) motor for my inflatable that can do "double duty" as a backup for the 22'.

If you go to the Swee Pea Photo Album page 4, there are quite a few photos of the install. The bracket has plenty of adjustment to lower the motor to a proper depth and still be able to steer. It is a good compromise solution. I also used a mounting plate so the bracket could be removed easily.

Hope this helps.

John
Swee Pea

journey on · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:09 am Post subject:

The Nissan 9.8 outboard is the lightest of them all, but I bet it's a 4-stroke.

The outboard bracket Jim/Wild Blue shows above is labeled "Not for 4-stroke use". The one C-Dory gave us is:

GARELICK Model #: 71091
Aluminum Auxiliary Motor Bracket For 4-Stroke Motors
# Horse Power Rating: Over 7 1/2 HP to 25 HP motor
# Vertical Travel*: 15 1/2” (39cm)

Defender Item #: 303618
Manufacturer: GARELICK
Our Price: $395.99

Sorry the URL for the Defender page doesn't seem to work.

Boris

Jim & Dara · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:48 am Post subject:

Thanks for all your responses.

I checked on the Cabelas site and did find a Panther bracket that works for 4 stroke as well. (Thanks for pointing that out Boris).

journey on · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:16 pm Post subject:

Jim & Dara

You might want to check out the other specs on that bracket. The only Panther 4 stroke bracket I found was a fixed bracket. If you have the short shaft outboard, I would assume that you would want the maximum lift, so that you can keep the motor out of the water when it's up and have it low enough to drive the boat when it's down. That's the good feature of the Garelick. Plus it's relatively easy to lift and lower the engine.

They do show a Marine Tech Outboard Motor Bracket for a 4 stroke, which is cheaper than the Garelick, but doesn't have any lift handles or any apparent stops.

BoatBandit has the Garelick mount for $250.

How do you measure the shaft length on an outboard? Journey On's Honda 9.9 measures 28" from the top of the mounting bracket (where it rests on the bracket) to the centerline of the prop. How does that translate into shaft length?

Boris

toyman · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:39 pm Post subject: Motor Bracket

I have a Garelick 71091 with a Honda 8HP short shaft on mine - works fine with plenty of range to put the motor in the water, or hold it clear.

Sea Wolf · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject:

thataway · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject:

Boris,
You have a 20" shaft. My 15 Honda (same frame as the 9.9) measures 23" from bracket to bullet noise or center of shaft. It is close to 17" from top of bracket to cavitation plate--which as Joe illustrated--is the correct way to measure shaft length.

Jim & Dara · Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:25 am Post subject:

Boris,

Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't realized Panther was a fixed bracket. I was leaning toward the Garelick I had seen on their website, now I'm sold.

Cheers

Jim

Miafun1 · Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:56 am Post subject:

JamesTXSD · Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:17 am Post subject:

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